Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vassilina Dikidjieva


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The result was   delete. Claimed WP:N is not sourced, nor findable. WP:EXISTSINANOTHERWIKIPEDIA is not a reason to keep ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Vassilina Dikidjieva

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Delete No evidence of notability. The only claim of significance in the article is "She won two major international architectural competitions earlier in her career", but it does not say what competitions they were. The external links from the article include two links to pages referring to competitions in which Dikidjieva was a competitor, so presumably these are the ones referred to. However, in neither case did she win. In the 2009 NY Coo Gallery Open Art Contest she was one of 17 runners up who were awarded "Judge’s Choice Awards", not one of the three individual winners. The World Trade Center Memorial Competition was won by Michael Arad, and Vassilina Dikidjieva entered but was not even a finalist. (The finalists are listed here.) Both the claim in the article and the links were added after the article was nominated for speedy deletion under CSD A7 (no indication of significance) and appear to have been put there to make it look as though there is significance. Nothing else suggests notability, either in the article or elsewhere. There is one other external link, which is to a paper which contains a few passing mentions of Dikidjieva, but does not remotely suggest notability in Wikipedia's sense. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete lacks significant coverage in 3rd party sources, claims of numerous awards are not backed up with refernces to reliable soiurces. Zero Google news hits on the name.  Only Google web hits are to the entry in the World Traid Center Memorial competition which was an open one.  This does nothing to demonstrate notability.  Agree with nom that the runner up award does nothing to demonstrate notability, notability of that competition  is questionable as well. RadioFan (talk) 11:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your attention. Well i felt encouraged by other wiki entries (such as []) and in the same category / List one R.T. Houben; and i assure you that Vassa is by no means inferior to these two younger self promoting artists, or less notable. It will be a pity to delete her, pls. Thx, best rgds, Thx, rgds, Ecce Nemo =Nobody]]Talk 22:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is never very useful to use "other articles exist which look no better to me than this one" as an argument in deletion discussions, for two reasons: (1) the other article may have sources which indicate more notability, and (2) the other article may indeed be no better, and deserve deletion itself. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. Moreover, you know, in the Bulgarian language WP these requirements are much eased: i noticed one young man Iliya Jelev, b.1961, finished a provincial school in 1987 wh actually CREATED HIS OWN ARTICLE, here [] - without ANY SINGLE outside verifiable support. When i remarked this to ADMIN, she responded that this is not FORBIDDEN, so ... there are quite a few others too. And for painters OUTSIDE support is not always easy. Pls, let's encourage V. Thx, rgds, Thx, rgds, Ecce Nemo =Nobody]]Talk 00:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC) Here is the quote of self-creation:

* (тек) (пред) 06:36, 4 декември 2008 Michaello (Беседа | приноси) м (4064 байта) (Cyrlat: 1 repl;) (връщане) * (тек) (пред) 11:09, 26 март 2007 Elkost (Беседа | приноси) (био-инфо) (връщане) * (тек) (пред) 16:54, 20 януари 2007 BloodIce (Беседа | приноси) (пооправяне) (връщане) * (тек) (пред) 16:44, 20 януари 2007 BloodIce (Беседа | приноси) м („Илия Желев Категория:Български художници“ преместена като „Илия Желев“: хмм) (връщане) * (тек) (пред) 16:38, 20 януари 2007 Iliyazhelev (Беседа | приноси) (Илия Желев)
 * (тек) (пред) 13:48, 23 септември 2009 BloodFire (Беседа | приноси) м (4115 байта) (fixing masked redirect) (връщане)


 * Comment I don't know how accurate the above account of practice at Hungarian Wikipedia is, but in any case it is irrelevant, as English Wikipedia is autonomous, and works by its own policies and guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * She won the Second prize (out of some 500+entries internationally) in the prestigious Shinkenchiku-sha Co., Ltd. Central Glass International Architectural Glass Design Competition No 16 of  1981 for Meditation Chapel; and was mentioned by Bernard Tshumi in his studies on DisProgramming.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecce Nemo (talk • contribs) 13:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

...and i am at a loss about how to point to PAPER support that is not digitized online, but easily available at major public libraries  -  is it admissible? Thx, rgds, Ecce Nemo =Nobody]]Talk 18:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Certainly it is permissible. It is more helpful to give citations to online sources, as that makes it easier for others to check them, but this does not mean that references to printed sources are not acceptable. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. That doesn't look like sufficiently notable. Nageh (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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