Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vaughan family


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The result was   delete. RS issues, notability concerns, props to the original editor for taking initiative and writing their first article tho! Tawker (talk) 07:44, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Vaughan family

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG. Yes, there are a zillion people surnamed Vaughan, and maybe half a zillion of them are from Virginia. However, there seem to be no RS that treat this particular bunch of Vaughans as a thing-in-itself, not even to the point where it's possible to determine if any given Vaughan is related to the supposed paterfamilias, John William Vaughan. It's possible, barely, maybe, that that particular guy is notable, although I'm dubious (the sourcing presently in the article is only about him). His family as a unit is not notable. &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Notability
I'm the author of the article and would be happy to have it taken down if it's determined that the family/individual is not notable enough. For the Virginia family directly descended from the paterfamilias, here are the points of notability I've found (all of which I will cite in the article if the community feels it is appropriate):


 * Early immigrant John William Vaughan landed at Jamestown in 1619 (and is confirmed in the Jamestown muster of 1624) and became a major landholder


 * Descendant Vaughans were major slaveholders from 1645 to 1865, with James Vaughan owning 47 slaves at the outbreak of the Civil War (can be cited)


 * Descendant Salathiel Vaughan was known, unfortunately, for his brutality to his slaves


 * Descendant Peter Vaughan was high sheriff of Dinwiddie County


 * Descendant Benjamin Boisseau Vaughan was a Harvard-educated Confederate veteran


 * The Vaughan family owned the tobacco firm of Vaughan, Hill and Company — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueBorealis (talk • contribs) 00:01, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Please let me know your thoughts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueBorealis (talk • contribs) 23:55, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The trouble is that there don't seem to be reliable sources (see WP:RS) that talk about the family as a whole, or even which support the notion that all those people are related to one another. Wikipedia measures notability (WP:N) solely by examining what's discussed in reliable sources.  If you're going to have an article on this family, the sources need to discuss the family itself rather than just individual members of it.  I really don't seem to be able to find any.  If there are some, by all means, let me know and I'll withdraw the nomination.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:53, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:43, 12 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is an effort to make a genealogy of a more or less ordinary family into an encyclopedic topic. There are many "Vaughan families," each with their own histories which are more or less as notable. While I appreciate the effort put forth, Wikipedia is not the place for such things. Do start a website for your family, it is cheap and easy to do. Carrite (talk) 16:03, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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