Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vegas Martyrs (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Vegas Martyrs
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Non-notable band. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 10:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Second nomination of this article. This is another case of "a non-notable band managing to stay on Wikipedia for way too long" disease. It has no sources and it has a notability tag since 2011. I have never heard about this band but I looked them up and I couldn't find anything else besides the unreliable databases, streaming service entries, retail sites, trivial mentions/name checks and blog sites. I found some album reviews scattered here and there but those sites do not look too reliable. I have found out that this article survived an AfD back in 2014 and the result was "no consensus". But since this is another example of a completely non-notable band, I sentence it to the second AfD. I said it before and I say it now: underground bands have no place on Wikipedia (of course there are exceptions) because there are no reliable sources. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 10:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI/Comment - This article was created in 2008, the dark ages of Wikipedia, when it was tougher to catch new articles for review, particularly stubs merely announcing a band's existence. And it has taken a decade plus to track them all down and who knows how many thousands more are still lurking around. Also, this one survived the AfD in 2014 because it was policy at the time to conclude "no consensus" if nobody voted; that process has since changed as well. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 02:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 10:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 10:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete we have no sources at all. I have no idea how these articles survive so long in this state.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Like the nominator I also located a few album reviews from unreliable blogs and obscure collector sites, e.g., but they seem to have attracted no other notice. An instructive case of WP:EXIST. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 02:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - And it managed to stay here since 2008. Wow. But I am not surprised as many non-notable bands manage to stay here for such a long time. Some of them are deleted now thanks to my AfDs, but like Doomsdayer520 said, who knows how many thousands are lurking around. Well said. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nothing in the current or available sourcing to indicate this band clears the hurdle of notability. WP:GARAGEBAND--Jack Frost (talk) 11:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


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