Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vela-Susan Park


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. spas putting forward non-policy based votes are traditional;l;y accorded very little weight and the delete votes have not been discredited. Spartaz Humbug! 17:12, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Vela-Susan Park

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Non-notable autobiography. A single book being published does not make for notability. A Google search turns up lots of hits, but mostly because this person seems to be a very active and self-promotional blogger. Disclaimer: her book was published in Korea. A search of Korean language sources might prove useful. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:48, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Does not meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG and over-promotes self.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 22:29, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Vanity article. Keb25 (talk) 12:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Please stick to the guidelines for deletion discussion. WP:COI is no longer a suitable comment in a deletion discussion as it is insulting to the subject. Please use WP:NPOV or WP:BIO instead 41.220.117.62 (talk) 08:19, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. A Google search of Korean title of book produces many results. Same genre as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Girl. kenumay (talk) 4:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, a Google search brings up lots of results: most of them sales sites. The book is the same genre, but nowhere near the same level of notability.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Article is about budding entrepreneur gaining notability. If people see her blog and want learn more about her but from an objective source, Wiki would be the best and only place. Otherwise, her shameless self-promotion will go unchecked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.20.26 (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2011 (UTC) — 64.183.20.26 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment "Gaining notability" is not notable. And the Wikipedia article seems to constitute shameless self-promotion, not prevent it.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment What is notable? (Also, Wiki should not constitute nor prevent promotion. This article should remain because people will wonder about who she is after reading her book/her name in a Chinese newspaper/etc and need an objective information source that isn't her wordpress "About Me." Keyword: objective)

particularly within the Asian community. If a celebrity is able to publish an article because they have one song out, why can't an article be formed when a legitimate book has been published? I think Wiki is a tremendous source from information and knowledge and it seems like people from variety of sectors including politics, social organizers, artists, fashion celebs, and writers can all benefit from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.199.217 (talk) 03:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — 66.31.199.217 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. I think the subject has incredible social work in terms of volunteer service, which tends to be rare for Asian Americans, and I think she would be worth the addition to wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apcsolo (talk • contribs) 00:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)  — Apcsolo (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. "Clearly, the subject has achieved excellence in many aspects. What she seems to me is like an academic celebrity and a role model
 * Keep. "I think The subject's accomplishments in education, community service, fashion and sustainability cummulatively merit recognition as a 'notable' subject of biography. The subject has served as the subject a popular book on educational success in Korea, she is co-founder of an innovative sustainability non-profit, which qualifies her under Creative Professionals criteria #3.  Her humanitarian and fashion accomplishments seem to add more value to these core qualifications."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.69.51.167 (talk) 03:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — 99.69.51.167 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. "I think a biography of an individual that MANY people will want to learn more about is a great addition to Wikipedia. To be honest, I don't think I have ever met any subject who has done what she did, and if we consider that self-promotion then we should consider everyone who has a biography is a shameless self-promoter. Her dedication to her work, community service, sets a great example for Asian Americans and people around the world. And her encouragement and mentoring of young children in the greater Los Angeles will continue to benefit the Asian American community from some time to come. She has an excellent and extensive record as a humanitarian and philanthropist. I think the article does add value to the wiki deck." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.62.213.40 (talk) 04:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — 99.62.213.40 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. "The information provided in this article would be relevant and informative in quite a few cases. Someone interested in the World Sustainability Organization, someone who is looking into her published book, someone who has read her article in Modern Glossy, or just someone who is passionate about Pacific American youth activism would be able to understand the background and other accomplishment and interests of the subject. This article caters to a diverse audience and is therefore an article that contributes to the scope of Wikipedia's knowledge." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilbluefawkes09 (talk • contribs) 05:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)  — Lilbluefawkes09 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep Vela-Susan Park is a case where she can serve as a model for younger generations of asian americans. I truly think that this page will be a great resource for any upcoming asian americans. She has also published a book in Korea and has achieved numerous goals at such an early age. Her unexceptional lifestory should be available for other young adults to read and be inspired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.74.198.229 (talk) 07:38, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — 61.74.198.229 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep This article meets the criteria for notability as she is a published author and the founder of a large non-profit organization. Such persons normally merit their own Wikipedia page. The page may violate WP:NPOV to some degree but it certainly salvageable and should be edited to ensure neutrality41.220.117.62 (talk) 08:19, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — 41.220.117.62 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

The traditional Asian has been people who worked exceedingly hard, got into good schools, and then when they graduated from the Ivy Towers, they found themselves cold on the streets. I think she would be a good reference for many young adults who have a hard time finding a person who they can relate to in American society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenny 9877 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 17 June 2011 (UTC) — Jenny 9877 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep I think Wikipedia should consider keeping the article because the subject also seems to break through many social conventions and misconceptions on how "Asian" should be.


 * Keep. This entry describes this young ladies activity throughout her life. The intensity with which she has lived and the shear amount of things she has accomplished in such a short amount of time makes her stand out and worthy of mention, also in Wikipedia, in my opinion. She stands out as a role model for those, especially those of her generation, who wish to lead a more altruistic life, to stand up and do rather than live a passive and sedentary lifestyle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratvanthiel (talk • contribs) 12:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)  — Pratvanthiel (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment It should be noted that all of the Keep comments above from SPAs amount to basically the same thing: "I think she's cool so you should keep her article." Not a single argument has been made to refute the original claim that this article does not meet the guidelines for inclusion.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * Keep. This article describes a young lady's experience as an Asian American. Would be a great resource to be looked at by other young girls who are going through similar situations. In addition, she is a published author in Korea who wrote a book to educate and direct younger people--definitely gives her merit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.82.134.130 (talk) 14:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)