Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vera Kerstens


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. No prejudice against later recreation. The pianist is still at the beginning of the career so things may change considerably. Tone 18:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Vera Kerstens

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Contested speedy deletion with some claim of importance as there is also an article in the Dutch wiki, both unsourced, brought here for further assessment after 2 days in the speedy queue. Delete unless reliable independent in-depth sources can be found. Tikiwont (talk) 17:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Understood, I am working on gathering/adding the required sources --H9000 (talk) 15:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or userfy if the creator wishes to keep searching for sources, but I could find only one news source, and that appears to be just a mention on a list. pablo hablo. 07:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added sources that support the accuracy and facts. The 6th reference supports the notability of the artist. --H9000 (talk) 12:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The sources "support the accuracy and facts", but all of it are only trivial mentions. Vera Kerstens doesn't meet the WP:MUSICBIO. Nothing significant in reliable sources. --Vejvančický (talk) 08:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment She has received coverage in a reliable source of an international tour (one of many tours she has been on) and won thé major dutch award for classical music performance. I figured that'd meet the WP:MUSICBIO (but am often mistaken). --H9000 (talk) 07:58, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, the sources mostly are passing mentions, one is a Wikipedia self-reference and doesn't say all it's supposed to say. Huon (talk) 14:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Might I be as bold to suggest instead of deleting the page because of said lack of in-depth sources, using refimprove and allow the article to be improved in time? --H9000 (talk) 06:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment In my opinion, the Princess Christina Competition is not a "major music competition" as required for notability per WP:MUSICBIO, and she has no other claim to notability except a passing mention in a concert announcement. That's unlikely to change if we tag the article. Furthermore, the majority of the article's current content, including such basic details as her birthdate, is not supported by sources and probably unverifiable. If the article gets deleted now, it may be recreated once Kerstens has become more notable and better sources are available. Huon (talk) 07:31, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.