Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veretski Pass


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No consensus for deletion on notability grounds, so default to keep. Several sources have been cited and could be integrated into the article. The disambiguation with respect to the mountain pass can be done editorially.  Sandstein  06:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Veretski Pass

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This is an article I originally created a good while ago, before I really had much experience of WP:RS etc (and a new search finds pretty much the same sources as were available back then). It has been tagged for Notability since November 2008, so I think it is probably time for it to be reviewed so we can see what the consensus says. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

See also:
 * Articles for deletion/Maxwell Street Klezmer Band
 * Articles for deletion/Kharkov Klezmer Band
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 15:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. This article is about a klezmer band. Note that the article says that the head nomination band is named after the mountain pass through which Magyar tribes crossed into the Carpathian basin.  I am unable to find that we have an article about this geographical feature, which probably merits one; and I tried all the variant spellings I could think of (Veretski, Veretsky, Verecki, Vereczi, Vereczy).  If we have one somewhere, redirect.  - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Response to your comment, Smerdis: Yes, there is an article, it is Verecke Pass, where the "c" is used to stand for a "ts" sound, as is the case in Slovac and certain other Slavic languages that use a Latin-based alphabet.--Cata-girl (talk) 21:45, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously, I need a few more monkeys to do my typing for me. Since you'd assume that an article about "Veretski Pass" would be about a pass rather than a band, I'd suggest redirect to Verecke Pass then.  If this band is notable enough for an article, that article should be at Veretski Pass (band), if only on account of historical priority; about that I have no strong opinion.  I did find a number of reviews and such while googling, but I was distracted by the alphageographical mystery and did not check to see whether any of them looked like good sources. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 00:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:36, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Some of the coverage they have recieved:
 * "Klezmer band to lead dance workshop at UI", 17 August 2008, The News-Gazette
 * "Where do they get those instruments?" by MELISSA MERLI, 18 February 2007, The News-Gazette
 * "'Music with a Jewish accent' ; Conservatory-trained trio to play Old World repertoire in Urbana" by MELISSA MERLI, 18 February 2007, The News-Gazette
 * "Making Music That Speaks to the Past" By LARY BLOOM, 4 March 2007, The New York Times
 * Some others I can't read but look all right:
 * "Weltklasse- Klezmer im Toggenburg" 11 March 2010, St. Galler Tagblatt
 * "Klezmermuziek tussen innovatie en traditie.", 27 November 2003, De Tijd
 * "«Wir lassen einfach weg, was uns nicht gefällt»", 8 March 2005, Fürther Nachrichten duffbeerforme (talk) 11:00, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you be able to add any of those as references at appropriate places in the article? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:19, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep, merge/rename and redirect per Smerdis of Tlön. - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 06:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.