Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vernon D'Souza


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The result was delete. Will add salt. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 03:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Vernon D'Souza

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. WP:REFBOMBed with unreliable sources and was twice rejected at Draft:Vernon D'Souza GPL93 (talk) 19:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GPL93 (talk) 19:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete - If the article was twice rejected during the draft process, I honestly wonder how the reviewers over there failed to notice that it ended up in mainspace anyway. Also note that two editors with suspicious names were primarily involved with both this article and the draft version: one called Vernonsmusic (the singer's first name is Vernon) and another called Prteamthisis (starts with "PR team" which could be an unfortunate coincidence or indicates public relations). In any case, the article accomplishes little more than a copy of the singer's professional biography propped up with unreliable social media sources. He has not received the significant and reliable media coverage that is necessary for notability. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 20:48, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - User:Doomsdayer520 asks how the reviewers in the draft process failed to notice that this ended up in mainspace anyway. The timing is that the draft was declined three times (not just twice) before it was entered into article space.  The author gamed the system of auto-confirmation by making more than ten edits to the draft and having been registered more than four days by the repeated submissions of the draft.  This is not an uncommon problem.  The way to deal with this conduct is to nominate the article for deletion, which has been done, and we are here.  Robert McClenon (talk) 05:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not satisfy musical notability. Has been entered in article space by gaming the system.  Robert McClenon (talk) 05:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - If the name of the article creator matches the name of the subject, or if the name contains "PR" or "official" or stuff like that, you know it's a red flag. And if the case of "gaming the system" happens, it's even worse. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 21:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Checkuser note I've blocked User:Johndavis22, User:Paulwebber72, and User:Prteamthisis as ✅ socks of User:Vernonsmusic. I'm tempted to CSD the article as a WP:CSD/WP:PAID TOU violation, but it may be better in the long wrong run to let the AfD play out then salt it to force all attempted recreations trough the draft process.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that it should play out. An AfD deletion also allows editors to WP:G4 any recreation although salting isn't a bad idea. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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