Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vesa Luma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 11:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Vesa Luma

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Requires better references to prove notability of living person. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 05:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I know exactly who she is despite me not being from Kosovo, nor ethnic Albanian (I know their female singers - that's just how I am!) and if references are the problem, I am sure we can fix plenty. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, please supply the substantive, independent coverage in RSs. That is what we would need to keep the article.  Any editor's knowledge that the subject exists would not count towards notability, unfortunately.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added two external links but there were sources in the first place. What exactly is required to prove the subject's notability? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 18:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep The two "Telegrafi" references in the article appear definitely reliable,and there are also many more Telegrafi articles about her, several short-but-not-trivial articles on Sot News (Vesa Luma: Ne jemi dyshja pretendente për çmimin e parë në “Dyshja Fantastike”, Vesa Luma pjesë e jurisë së shout “X Factor”, Vesa: Femrat duhet të marrin guximin t’i propozojnë meshkujve), and other not trivial news-resources here and there (ie Vesa Luma: Jo flirt me Big-un, vetëm bashkëpunim or Vesa Luma - a concert in Lubljana). The article requires a strong cleanup but there are enough secondary sources to support a claim of notability. Cavarrone (talk) 22:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I also add - on the subject of secondary sources - there is no end to the Youtube features on the subject: promotional videos and interviews which are evidently taken from television appearances. Even if you didn't happen to know the native Albanian, it is unequivocal that the presentations are genuine and not artificially compiled. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.