Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veterans Songs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nominator has withdrawn the nomination. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 19:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Veterans Songs

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Non-notable album from a band who's page has just been deleted. Evking22 (talk) 05:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note for the closing admin: The nominator has withdrawn the nomination. See below. Lourdes  03:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment AFD for the band was here. There is not much coverage of this album online, however it has been nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Native American Music Album in 2001 (src: 1, 2, 3, 4). Technically the album passes WP:NALBUM in point 4 for notability. The same argumentation could have been made for band itself too. Dead Mary (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --  Dane talk  02:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 04:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete While perhaps in technical compliance with WP:NMUSIC#4, that merely creates a presumption that there is likely to be notability. In this case, there simply isn't any apparent evidence, in the article or in searches, of any significant coverage in independent sources.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  So Why  18:38, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: My normal view is to recommend a merge to the band article, but the band article was deleted (which, I think is questionable, and I might have it userfied to work on it, actually). No !vote, as my solution is currently moot.   Montanabw (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Not only was it nominated for the Grammy, it won the Best Historical Recording award at the Native American Music Awards. Here's some more coverage on the album. In my opinion, these are the cases why NMUSIC has been made. NMUSIC points to the probability of general notability coverage existing or coming up in the future. For example, Veterans has been covered significantly by University and college magazines, has featured in the listings of multiple books, encyclopedias and Billboard publications. Of course, while the university publications are significant coverage, they don't perhaps qualify pristinely on our reliable source requirements, and while publications like Billboard magazine are reliable, the mention is just in a listing. I would suggest giving this article some more time. Veterans qualifies on NMUSIC and we should appropriately support the existence of such cultural benchmarks for a part of our less represented population. Lourdes  03:12, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Pinging to enquire if they'll consider withdrawing the Afd nomination. Thanks.  Lourdes  03:14, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm now seeing that this band's album could be worked on a bit. The band itself could be added back again if we have the proper sources to identify it as being notable. I officially withdraw my nomination for deletion. Evking22 (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the gracious move. Lourdes  03:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


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