Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vic Viper


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The result was   keep. Although opinions tend towards merge. Exactly what to do with this article can be worked out on its talk page. Stifle (talk) 09:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Vic Viper

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This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge although major characters should generally have an article, this is the only major character in the series, and could properly be merged. The N argument is irrelevant if one merges, of course. Merge is needed here, not redirect, for it isn't discussed in the main article, where it easily can be--the length is not excessive. And in any case, a redirect from the names of at least major characters is essential. Hence, I think nominating multiple articles of this sort when merging or redirection would do is excessive, shows a clear misunderstanding of deletion policy that redirects or merges are preferred when possible. DGG (talk) 22:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gradius (series). No sense in merging unreferenced, unencyclopedic material. MuZemike (talk) 23:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MuZemike (talk) 23:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Vic Viper is an icon that represents Gradius and so this article should not be deleted, and while I wouldn't be opposed to a merge if done properly, nominating an obviously iconic character to force the process is not something I'll have a hand in. So my vote is to Keep. JuJube (talk) 04:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Vic Viper isn't just major entity in Gradius. It also major entity in other series such as Zone of the Ender 2 and Sky Girl. Merge with Gradius most likely narrow the coverage on that area. L-Zwei (talk) 05:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge. Notable to Gradius, but not notable as a cameo to the series he cameos in. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * weak keep/merge. Vic Viper is an iconic character of Konami, its appearance is not limited to the Gradius series.(Even if you include the Parodius series as a sub-series)  I don't know if it could be sourced or not, I know of none for the time being, yet it is very obvious that Konami included it in quite a lot of games and anime like the ones suggested L-Zwei, it even gained appearance in the love sim series Tokimeki Memorial, twice(PC Engine version and 3).  The busou shinki design competition winner also claimt to have its design inspired by Vic Viper (It is inspired by the Anubis Version Vic Viper from ZOE) which could be sourced from the June, 2008 issue of Dengeki Hobby Magazine and a model was built for it in the August, 2008 issue.  I must say that the current article is in a real poor state, but it seems like poorly written is never a good argument in having it deleted. MythSearchertalk 06:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * weak keep/mergePer DGG and Mythsearcher. --  Banj e  b oi    08:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.