Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vicious White Kids


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator and the only delete !voter has changed his !vote. The issue of merging can continue on the article's talk page. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:27, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Vicious White Kids

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Since this ephemeral "band" only played one concert, never released any studio albums or singles, and never had any hits, I don't think it satisfies the notability guidelines at all. This might deserve a brief mention in the Sex Pistols or Sid Vicious article, but it certainly doesn't deserve its own article. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete - There is some historical interest here but only for other bands. The historical info can be merged to Sex Pistols, Rich Kids, and The Damned (band) accordingly. No need to preserve the rest of the info in this article so it can then be deleted. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 01:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – meets the general notability guideline. Since the AfD nomination, I've added multiple references. From what I see, every time there's a release of the live recording, the band gets media coverage including reviews from music critics. I've added a sampling. I've not an expert in the history of punk music, but looking at the sources I'm getting the impression that this one-off concert was an important event in the history of the genre: Sid Vicious' final concert in England before his death, an unusual collaboration between a musician from the Sex Pistols (Vicious) and the musician he had replaced (Glen Matlock). Anyway, if nothing else the subject meets WP:BAND criterion #1. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 20:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Addendum to my previous vote - Paul Erik above made some valid points, but I have checked out the sources and I'm not convinced that the coverage is truly about Vicious White Kids as a stand-alone entity, because there are almost always mentions of the Sex Pistols, the Rich Kids, and/or the Damned. That is the basis for my Merge/Delete vote above. But Paul Erik made some good points about notability for the Vicious White Kids in the historical sense. If he and I end up being the only voters in this debate, I see no problem with closing it as Keep. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 14:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, note that voting "merge and delete" is discouraged per Merge and delete. Polarpanda (talk) 20:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I knew that but in this case there is no single article to redirect to. A decision would have to be made among three eligible band articles, or four if you include Sid Vicious. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 01:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.