Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vicki F. Matsumori


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Majority favour delete. Arguments for keeping are weak. Michig (talk) 09:58, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Vicki F. Matsumori

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Fails WP:BASIC. Source searches are only providing name checks in independent reliable sources; no significant coverage in said necessary sources appears to exist.

Furthermore, four of the sources in the article are primary, which are not usable to establish notability, and the Deseret News source in the article is about the subject's husband, and only provides a name check of this subject. North America1000 05:47, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:48, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Utah-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:48, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:48, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 23:20, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep a significant leader in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:05, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – The above keep !vote is not based upon Wikipedia's notability standards. Furthermore, there is no presumed notability for religious subjects . North America1000 07:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 23:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep as subject is a female leader in the Mormon church, which seems notable, but I am having trouble finding reliable independent sources. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 05:07, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding the !vote directly above –
 * 1) The subject being female does not create notability; notability is not gender-based.
 * 2) There is no presumed notability for religious subjects on English Wikipedia.
 * 3) The utter lack of reliable, independent sources that provide significant coverage about the subject is exactly why the subject is not notable, as per Wikipedia's standards.
 * – North America1000 06:15, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The keep !votes lack guideline-based rationale. The delete !votes (including the nom, that is) are significantly strong in arguments. Relisting to see if clearer consensus can emerge.
 * Delete as failing WP:GNG all the sources are affiliated to the LDS including Deseret news which is owned by the LDS. Dom from Paris (talk) 17:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes   03:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as subject does not have significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Community consensus is that LDS leaders have to pass GNG (or some appropriate SNG). This subject does not. Sources in the article are either not independent (Ensign, Church News, lds.org) or not significant (husband's obituary in Deseret News). Search finds only passing mentions in routine coverage of church announcements, or brief quotes without additional analysis. It doesn't add up to significant coverage of this subject, and there is no other legitimate claim to notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Bakazaka (talk) 04:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.