Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vicky Larraz


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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 19:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Vicky Larraz

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Article consists of a few basic personal details and the track listings of a couple of albums but nothing suggesting notability. WP:BEFORE searches find nothing in English which could be used to establish notability, though I suppose sources may exist in Spanish. Neiltonks (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 14:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 14:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep -- First of all, the state of the article is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not it should be deleted. See WP:ARTN.  Second, it's obvious that there might be sources in Spanish.  So obvious that not to have checked for sources in Spanish violates WP:BEFORE.  Third, in fact there are tons of high quality sources in Spanish, which is why the subject of this article meets the GNG and the article should be kept.  Just for instance, consider this from El Pais, which, according to our article on the paper, is the second most read newspaper in Spain.  And this from El Mundo, also a pretty big deal.  Here is one more, but really, a GNews search in Spanish, which should have been done before nomination, will settle this question completely. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 15:04, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment, spanish wp has had an article since 2007 with no issues and a good no. of sources that could be used in the wpenglish article, btw, WP:GNG states "Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language." and WP:NONENG - "Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia (although prefer english)", may i suggest that if, in future, has concerns with an article about a non-english subject, that they bring it up on the relevant language wikiproject talkpage so that editors who are proficient in the language can consider it? Coolabahapple (talk) 16:53, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: the English Wikipedia article is terrible, but virtually all her chart success (both solo and with her band Olé Olé) was in the 1980s, so there's no information on the internet – you can see she's had one minor hit in recent years but in the 1980s she was a big singing star in Spain, with no. 1 records... you'd need to get hold of a copy of Francisco Salaverri's Solo Éxitos (1959–2012) book to check her 1980s chart positions. And her subsequent television career, both as an actress and as a presenter, is well documented in the Spanish Wikipedia article. Obviously she wasn't that famous outside the Spanish-speaking world, but there's a passing mention of her here in Billboard in 1988, for example, which mentions her success in Latin America as well – I think it's safe to say that if she was famous enough to be mentioned in Billboard in an article about Spanish musical talent, the Spanish media of the 1980s will have plenty of articles on her, it's just a case of finding print media from the era. Richard3120 (talk) 17:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep article could use expansion and improved referencing, not deletion per WP:ATD. Number of references are available in Spanish Wikipedia article as mentioned above. Hmlarson (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


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