Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Black


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Pittsburgh Pirates minor league players.  MBisanz  talk 22:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Victor Black

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Recently drafted player, does not meet WP:ATHLETE criteria ... recreation of article speedy deleted yesterday. &mdash; The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 15:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  -- Tavix |  Talk  16:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Tavix |  Talk  16:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete- Fails on WP:ATH, this article should be recreated only when the subject attains professional level, or gains remarkable success. Hitro 19:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Pittsburgh Pirates minor league players. I've cleaned up the article and added a couple of references.  As a high draft pick, the subject gets quite a few Gnews hits, but I don't see that he merits an independent article at this stage of his career. By the way, there's no way that this article should have been nominated for speedy deletion.  It doesn't come close to meeting the speedy deletion criteria. BRMo (talk) 00:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:ATHLETE. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as previous Speedy'ing admin--no assertion that he meets WP:ATHLETE. Jclemens (talk) 03:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I reiterate that this article should not have been speedy deleted.  While it's true that the article has jumped the gun relative to WP:ATHLETE—although the subject has signed a professional contract and been assigned to a professional minor league team, he hasn't yet appeared in a professional game (presumably that will happen in the next couple of weeks)—the criteria for speedy deletion are stricter than this.  Criterion A7 says the article "does not indicate why the subject is important or significant...The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance."  The lead paragraph, which says that Black was selected by the Pittsburgh Pirates in the first round of the draft, is certainly an indication that the subject is important or significant. Considering the attention that is given by the media to players selected in the first round of professional drafts, any player selected in the first round may have a case for notability under WP:GNG.  The existence of coverage from reliable sources can easily be confirmed by a couple of Gnews searches  .  WP:CSD says, "Administrators should take care not to speedy delete articles except in the most obvious cases."  Although I don't support keeping this article, it's far from an obvious case and should never have been speedied. BRMo (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - As nominator, I support the Merge and redirect as suggested above by BRMo. &mdash; The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 04:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Victor Black made his professional debut on June 30, pitching one inning for the minor league State College Spikes. Would any of the editors who cited WP:ATHLETE like to reconsider their comments? BRMo (talk) 11:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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