Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria "Porkchop" Parker


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  13:41, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Victoria "Porkchop" Parker

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Appearing in a large number of (local) pageants, a single episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, and a few other minor TV apperaances doesn't meet WP:ENT. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 21:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Actually, yes it does meet the requirements, I don't know where or how you got that. Those pageants are more national than local, she appeared in more than one drag race episode, the multiple tv appearances add relevance, and I believe she was considered a legend even before season 1 started, so no, the page should not and will not be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratherbe2000 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete looking at WP:ENT, being a reality television show contestant doesn't get you over the notability line under any of the guidelines. SportingFlyer  talk  04:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ’’’keep’’’ Exactly - that’s why I added her pageant history and other media appearances for extra proof of relevance. Plus that was a poorly constructed sentence - hundreds of reality show contestants have Wikipedia pages, for more reason or less. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratherbe2000 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * you do not get to !vote twice. vote struck. Also, please read WP:SIGN104.163.148.25 (talk) 08:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - Miss Gay America and Miss'd America (which she won in 2013) are National in scope. It appears that in the reference that the pageant list comes from that any entry without a placement indicates that she won the event. I'm working on verifying that now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs)
 * Delete -Although this person has competed in a wide number of pageants, the pageants largely have not achieved notability themselves, at least enough to warrant their own page. Although one pageant did achieve notability, the vast majority of winners themselves lack notability, and in that pageant, Parker merely achieved Top Ten. The notablity of the winners seems to be supported by other things. Parker's achievements in most pageants have been non-placed participation. The TV appearances have all been brief, and the most notable one amounted to getting booted off the show on the first episode. TheGreatConsultingDetective (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Where do you think the pageants aren’t notable enough? Because they are, and the quantity of them alone anyway makes her notable. She “amounted” in more than 1 episode of a show, with actually more appearances than other Drag Race queens who do have Wiki pages, (Monica, Pearl, Farrah, etc.) so saying she should be deleted because the TV appearances were “minor” is very hypocritical.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:43, 15 March 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   21:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I've updated her article with more info and citations. Parker has toured internationally and won over 100 pageants; in fact just last week, Variety said Parker is one of the top most successful queens in her career after the show. Parker appeared on 2 Broke Girls as a guest star and was featured on Botched (TV series). MTV cast her as a backup dancer for Miley Cyrus at the 2015 VMAs. Even though she was eliminated on the first episode of Rupaul's Drag Race, she is regularly referenced on the show and has been brought back by Rupaul as a guest star at least once a season since season 4, meaning she's had far more appearances than most other contestants. Her legacy as the first plus-sized, older queen has been discussed in a book about Rupaul's Drag Race. This article passes WP:GNG for significant discussion over time in a variety of secondary sources. Passes WP:ENTERTAINER for "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." It passes WP:ANYBIO for "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." Lonehexagon (talk) 06:31, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


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