Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Villarruel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Normally I'd like to see more discussion take place, however, this has been relisted twice and there's been minimal discussion. The minimal discussion, however, moves this into a keep close. With the short amount of discussion that's taken place, there's no issue with speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Dusti*Let's talk!* 02:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Victoria Villarruel

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This a self-promotional article Campinux (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

- This article is about a negationist who denies State terrorism in the 70s in Argentina. - This article makes some bold non-encyclopedic claims written as propaganda - This article has no counterpart in the spanish wikipedia (which makes it all the more suspicious considering it is about someone form Argentina, making claims about events that happened in Argentina) - The person in question, is of no public relevance
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 March 29.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 15:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:42, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment This may well be a difficult one for any admin to call. A problem with any Argentine political article is the country's revisionist history movement on the right (and left wing).  This has a habit of "reinterpreting" history and also embellishing it with half-truths, lying by omission and just plainly inventing stuff. Revisionist authors are often published in normal print media, making it difficult for wikipedia since we'd normally consider print media with editorial oversight reliable.  However, this isn't the case for these authors, they are often able to express what we classify as WP:FRINGE views.  That said, some of what Victoria Villarruel is quoted as saying is true, there were links between terrorists movements and the Peronists that spilled over into the chaotic government of Isabella Peron.  And the awful crimes of the military era tend to overshadow the very real terrorist threat in Argentina that led to the military junta but in no way justify them.  It's also true that the Kirchner regime also protected former terrorists, even awarding state pensions to surviving members of the Condor group that hijacked an airliner on an internal flight.    I don't think the lack of a corresponding article on es.wikipedia is significant, there are a group of editors there that effectively control the Argentine section and tend to push a POV favouring the Peronists.  Looking at this article, Victoria Villarruel has appeared at the Oslo Freedom Forum, there is a pretty good and balanced article on Vice news  and there appears enough to satisfy me that Victoria Villarruel meets the requirements of WP:GNG, there is plenty of coverage of her in news articles.  This article is likely to require significant admin oversight as from experience it is likely this will become somewhat of a battleground between competing political factions from Argentina. WCM email 10:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Subject meets the requirements of WP:GNG, there are sufficient reliable sources to source an article. That said per my comment above, I believe this article is going to require admin oversight to ensure it has NPOV coverage. WCM email 10:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Wee Curry Monster. Yann (talk) 19:51, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 21:56, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:GNG and authored books.  Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 20:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


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