Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria kopetz


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The result was   delete. This article is full of FAIL. No notability established, and this reeks as a joke. seicer &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  13:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Victoria kopetz

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I believe it fails notability. Appears to be written by its subject, who claims to be a "world renowned expert in cardiology". The citation that is supposed to support this, however, shows no such thing. There are also mentions of multiple awards, however none of these awards are cited in anything more than a hospital newsletter. In addition, it cites things where the subject's name does not even appear or private facebook groups.

On the surface this article appears to be notable. However, once you dig into the citations there is little note to be found. It also takes care to note how the subject specializes in Texas Hold'em. mboverload @ 04:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I have a photo of her in Amsterdam after a presentation, and she is well known around her home city in the poker circles. The facebook group included has her listed as the president of the organisation mentioned. Apart from getting in touch with her and asking for her CV do you have any other suggestions?

Cheers, --Skydivemayday (talk) 05:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No relevant citations to demonstrate notability. Dmwiki (talk) 05:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I vote to keep, doing a google search is enough to backup the information in the article --Eevo (talk) 05:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A plain google search gives a grand total of 25 hits. Which ones of them do you think indicate notability? Nsk92 (talk) 08:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately she was away overseas doing presentations during much of the current National Poker League season so it is difficult to obtain her tournament results for citations about poker. I was kind of joking about trying to get in touch with her and ask her for her CV... But I also think it is inappropriate to post her research paper up here as it is copyright and has some sensitive research information in it. --Skydivemayday (talk)

I have read her paper on Proteomics and its a fully comprehensive source of information for up and coming students.


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 * Speedy delete this is a hoax, ref #4 leads to a page for a facebook group, with Kopetz as an "officer"; clicking to get her profile makes it clear she is a graduate student. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The last point is no big deal as the subject is only 24, probably a recent graduate. One of hundreds of thousands, cannot see any notability too. NVO (talk) 11:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It means that an article claiming she is a "world-renowned expert" in anything is best considered a hoax. It's just someone having a laugh.  The whole thing should have been prodded. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. Not a hoax exactly (it is clear that this person does exist and she might have just graduated and the myspace profile may not have been updated yet), but a number of claims do not pass WP:V and the case does not pass either WP:PROF or WP:BIO. Ref no 2 is cited in the article to support the claim that she received the Joy Noble Medal. Looking at this reference one sees that she is not mentioned in the article about the medal and that that article says that the medal was in fact awarded to the The "Friends of The Queen Elizabeth Hospital" association. Kopetz' name is mentioned only once, in the photo caption for an article on another topic. Ref no 5 does not mention her name. Ref no 4 is a facebook link (not a reliable source). Ref no 1 mentions her giving a poster presentation at some conference. The article mentions a few student-level academic awards. Even if they are verified, they would not indicate academic notability under WP:PROF (see item 9 in Notes and Examples section of WP:PROF). No evidence of significant citability of her research (GoogleScholar gives very little) or of satisfying any of the other criteria of WP:PROF. No evidence presented of her being a notable poker player either. All in all, clearly fails both WP:PROF and WP:BIO. The style of the article indicates that it may have been meant as a joke. Nsk92 (talk) 08:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per Nsk92.Geogre's Law upheld once again. --Crusio (talk) 09:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable, non-verifiable. If the article contains deliberate misinformation than Speedy it as vandalism. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


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