Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victory Services Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 09:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Victory Services Club

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 * This article was created, was deleted as copyvio of http://www.vsc.co.uk/who-we-are, was re-created under somewhat different name, I obeyed a request to move it here. My 2 queries are:-
 * Notable?
 * Is the alleged copyvio merely what I call "selfcopyvio"?, i.e. the same man, or two people in the same club or company, set up http://www.vsc.co.uk/who-we-are and article Victory Services Club. The allegedly copyvio edits are the 4 oldest edits.
 * Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * weak delete - This certainly reeks of WP:COI, but that in and of itself isn't enough to delete. The removal of the copyvio text surely reduces this to a neat little stub, and the club seems to have a few prestigious members. Can we find any appropriate sources to confirm the membership? If not, then my !vote will stand. If we can find some, then I'll probably change my !vote. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Lots of Google web search hits, but as far as I can tell they are all related to the fact that the club has conference facilities and lodgings for rent. In Google book search, I found this and this.  Unfortunately, only snippet views are available for the two books, so I can't really verify if they can be used as references.  Favonian (talk) 20:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I am changing my !vote. As a charitable institution (according to its website) the relevant notability criteria are found in WP:CLUB.  In addition to the, admittedly terse, book references, I've come across two news sources: The Glasgow Herald and The Montreal Gazette which in my opinion (combined with a healthy dose of AGF in the history section of the web site) gets the article across the finishing line.  Favonian (talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * On the fence This organization seems like it ought to be notable: in existence since 1907, housed in a historic building (Connaught House), new wing was dedicated by Winston Churchill; but all this is according to their own website. I'll see if I can find anything more independent. --MelanieN (talk) 00:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, regretfully, after a search. It appears this is more of a place of public accommodation than an actual club. Clearly it is a well known place; there are many references to it in fiction, as a place where the hero meets someone or the traveler rests; but nothing that constitutes in-depth coverage about the club itself. --MelanieN (talk) 01:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   05:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Its size and its premises, along with notable people who are associated with it, get it over the line. It clearly is a club that offers, as many do, accommodation for members. It is not just accommodation. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  08:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
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