Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viking Crown


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The result was keep. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure)  M h hossein   talk 13:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Viking Crown

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Non-notable band. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 18:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Phil Anselmo is notable, obviously. But not everything he did is notable. Viking Crown is an example. I could not find anything besides unreliable databases such as Metal Archives, Discogs, Spirit of Metal, Rate Your Music and the like. The rest of the results were retail sites, blogs, trivial mentions, name checks and stuff where only the words are used, which does not make anyone/anything notable either. The article of the first album have no sources whatsoever, while the second one is sourced to an Allmusic review only. The band has an Allmusic biography page which establishes notability. I also found a review of their second album on Metal.de. But I still don't know if that site is reliable or not. The article itself is also poorly sourced to Rockdetector and Encyclopedia Metallum. I don't know about the former, but I know for a fact that the latter is not notable. The band's name is mentioned in books about metal music, but that's it (for example: "Vision of Disorder, Viking Crown,...") so it seems like there is no reliable sources whatsoever. I also searched with his name included but I could not find anything more besides trivial mentions (during interviews with Phil, mentioning it during his career etc.), name checks and shop sites. So it seems it did not have any notability outside of Phil Anselmo. I find that interesting since Phil Anselmo himself is clearly notable but it seems this short-lived project of his did not attract much attention and remained underground. The band has articles on the Norwegian and Italian Wikipedias too, but the sourcing is crappy on both of them. So I say, Viking Crown is not notable on its own, but it can be redirected to Anselmo's article (the band itself has a paragraph there). GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


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 * Redirect to Phil Anselmo as one of his many side projects. Viking Crown is occasionally mentioned in long magazine articles about things Anselmo has done, but I can find no reliable media coverage in which this act was discussed on its own merits. They are only found in the basic list sites as found by the nominator, and the same is true of their albums. However, experts may search for the name, so they can be directed to Anselmo's page where Viking Crown already has a basic mention. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I found this album review. Chronicles of Chaos is a reliable source. Okay, maybe I rushed this up, I nominated too quick. We have several reliable sources now (Allmusic biography + Allmusic album review, Metal.de Album Review, Chronicles of Chaos Album Review). I will put these sources in the article and I think we can keep it. (The reason I started this AfD was the fact that initially I did not find any reliable source, and by searching "Viking Crown" the unreliable sources still outweigh the reliable ones. You have to search really hard to find these.) GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you wish to withdraw the nomination, you may do so. Chubbles (talk) 22:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Leaning toward Keep on this one. The metal.de review, AMG's bio and review, a (short) bio on the old Rockdetector, plus this interview states that a piece in Revolver led to the band's breakup, which means Revolver was covering the group in 2001. I've little doubt that other metal rags ca. 2001 would turn up more coverage. Chubbles (talk) 22:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Ok, I withdraw the AfD, the article can be kept. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 07:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


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