Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vikram Vedha (2022 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify to Draft:Vikram Vedha (2022 film). Consensus was to delete, but I'll drafity in case the film becomes notable after release. The most compelling argument in this discussion is that this future film fails WP:NFF because there is no evidence that the production itself is notable. This was not adequately refuted in the discussion.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 05:52, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Vikram Vedha (2022 film)

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Vikram Vedha (2022 film)

This film does not satisfy future film guidelines.

This draft or article is about an unreleased film. The film notability guideline identifies three stages in the production cycle for films:
 * 1. Planned films that have not begun production (principal photography or animation).  These planned films do not satisfy film notability.
 * 2. Films that are confirmed by reliable sources to have begun production, but have not been released.  These films are only notable if production itself satisfies general notability in terms of significant coverage.  Mere mention of the start of production does not satisfy notability.
 * 3. Films that have been released, whose notability is determined primarily by reception and reviews.

This film page must be evaluated based on general notability of production. Category:AfC comment templates Of the three references that are listed to state that principal photography has begun, two are press releases making a passing mention, and one does not appear to mention the film at all. There is already a draft. This article can be merged into the draft or deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: This project satisfies WP:NFF since it began principal photography yesterday (October 15), is a high-profile project and has been receiving substantial news coverage for over two-three years. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * NFF doesn't draw a single line at 'principal photography started'. And its pre-production marketing likely doesn't matter. Until the film is released, an article is discouraged unless the production process itself is noteworthy. Platonk (talk) 08:34, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails to satisfy WP:NFF because there is no indication that the production itself is notable. Per NFF: "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Platonk (talk) 08:34, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per what User:Kailash29792 said. Hyderabadi (talk) 14:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - I am agreed with Platonk.  Barrettmagic  Talk  13:33, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Blocked sock. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes NFF (principle photography has commenced) the highly successful SNG for temporary lessening the strictness for the GNG to apply. Sources will arise, imminently, and there is currently a plethora of sources, and this page history is the places to keep the history of edits and swapping in of better sources.  Readers want this article, and readers must not be sent to draftspace. This reading of NFF has been highly successful for a very long time.  It is a very strong predictor of successful articles, and it works excellently for new editors. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * (A) You misunderstand NFF. (B) Which SNG? (C) If you want to change a policy or guideline, this is not the venue for it. Go to the talk page of the policy or guideline you wish to change, or to one of the noticeboards, to bring up your issues there. (D) Wikipedia is NOT a directory, and especially not a film directory! Whether or not 'the world' wants Wikipedia to become the be-all-and-end-all directory of all things... it is not, never has been, never tried to be, and has tried hard not to be. Platonk (talk) 08:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with . The film is one of the most anticipated movies of Bollywood. Also many editors are added and adding more reliable sources and developing and expanding the article. Hyderabadi (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 14:05, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify or Redirect to Vikram Vedha per WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Fails the last paragraph of WP:NFF. A redirect is preferable over deletion per WP:ATD and WP:CHEAP. Draftify would also be a reasonable solution as the film will likely pass NFILM upon its release.4meter4 (talk) 00:57, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In that cast, please tag Draft:Vikram Vedha (2022 film) for deletion so this can be moved there. Kailash29792 (talk)  08:26, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Now the article has been expanded and developed. So I suggest to give your vote after seeing the article. Just don't give vote by seeing the nomination. Hyderabadi (talk) 07:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per SmokeyJoe and Kailash29792 -GorgonaJS (talk) 17:46, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect per 4meter4 as an alternative to deletion. Heartmusic678 (talk) 11:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.