Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vilify (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Vilify (song)

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Speedy declined but album is a debut album. May be a possible redirect but as of now it looks like this is a nn song and also a recreated article that has previously been deleted. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 16:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect, probably to Device (Device album) (although I'm not certain if that is notable - it's not out till April). This song isn't notable; it's had little coverage beyond announcements of its existence and it hasn't charted. It also doesn't seem to have been officially formally released, though these things are a bit different to the days of vinyl/CDs. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Album art and references have been added. Song is debut single of band whose lead singer is also a member of an already reputable band, Disturbed. Songs that are upcoming singles have been common for well known bands and side projects of well-known artists. Single is set to be released in 12 hours. No need to delete or redirect at this point. --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's a single, has a cover, available for free download, and from a band that already has an article, as well as an article of the album that it is from. NO reason at all to delete it. TheSickBehemoth (talk) 18:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Failing WP:NSONG is a reason to delete. But we could Userfy/Incubate until it's notable, if people want. --Colapeninsula (talk) 23:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Article contains references to multiple "published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label," (CraveOnline, Loudwire) therefore passing WP:NSONG. --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 1:48, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect or Keep - Pointless to delete, as the song is very likely to chart and get plenty of coverage pretty soon. There's not much to say yet, but the band/album itself is a high profile release featuring many high profile artists, so it's a pretty safe bet there will be plenty of coverage for its debut single eventually. Sergecross73   msg me   16:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment- Music video for single has been released, and reference link to said video has been included in the article. --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 6:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's an official single that's just been released, so the article will develop as the song is reviewed, when it (probably) charts, and when the full album is released. --Grgrsmth (talk) 18:46, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Here's a reliable source dedicated to the song - http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/device-vilify-song-review-5-out-of-5-stars/10410431 -- Sergecross73   msg me   01:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 00:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)



I believe the article should be kept because it is the debut single of a band that, while new, is fronted by an established lead singer in David Draiman (of Disturbed (band)). The song is sure to chart, and a music video has already been released. The song page has references to song reviews from established sites Loudwire and Artist Direct. The article will continue to develop as more reviews come out and more chart information is made available. Please keep. --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Why was this relisted? Not a single person has !voted for "Delete" - there's a pretty clear consensus that this won't be deleted. This discussion really should have been closed - a new "redirect" discussion can just be started on the article's talk page if people really want to keep pushing for it... Sergecross73   msg me   14:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree with Sergecross73. I don't really see the reasoning behind the relisting. I just wanted to make sure that I had a chance to sum up my point in this discussion. Can we make a move to close this discussion and leave the article as is? --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 07:06, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - WP:NSONGS asks: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label."  - All I see for this single is a few very minor on-line bloggish reports.  the single was released on 19 Feb 2013.   Both craveonline and  loudwire sources were published before the official release date, perhaps making them more of a PR effort, rather than independent reviews.    Most of the Keep comments above were posted around the release date.   Two weeks have gone by since the release.   What has happened in the two weeks since it was released? Did it chart?   Has any major reviewer reviewed it?  Did they get invited to perform the single in some major venue?   Why have no major sources commented on the single since around 23 Feb?  --Noleander (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - The CraveOnline article was posted after the band released a "making of" video on their official YouTube page prior to the release of the singe. The Loudwire article was published before the official release of the song because the song leaked two days prior to its radio release date. The song charted on the US Active Rock chart this week and was featured in Loudwire's Top 20 songs of the week for the week of Feb. 24th through March 2nd. I'm still voting to keep. --Coltsmetsfan614 (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.