Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinay Maloo (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. The source analysis is convincing that the article subject is currently non-notable. Legoktm (talk) 03:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Vinay Maloo
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Despite appearances, there is nothing to show notability here. All the references bar one are either passing mentions, or don't mention the subject, or are not independent. In a WP:BEFORE search, I can find no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject as required by WP:BIO or WP:N. It's a mix of obvious paid puff pieces, press releases, churnalism, passing mentions, and doesn't-even-mention-hims. Enso Group and HFCL might be notable, but notability is WP:NOTINHERITED on Wikipedia. Conflict of interest is evident by the promotional tone and heavy use of press releases and paid content. It's basically a WP:CFORK of Enso Group, and there's very little useful, verifiable information here for a merge to that article.

See also WP:Articles for deletion/Vaibhav Vinay Maloo, which was deleted on the same grounds, even after an almighty refbombing by a strike team of sockpuppets. Storchy (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and India. Storchy (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Sock puppetry and refbombs are bad signs. They only tend to happen when something isn't notable, otherwise the wiki article would have sources that are acceptable. I agree with the one source as above, but we don't have anything else that can be used for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, agree there's a lack of notability here. Sources in article seem to be puff pieces.Moresdi (talk) 16:35, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ’’’Keep’’’ You guys don’t have anything else to do but delete pages on Wikipedia. I wish I could explain the irony of the moment. Do whatever you want. I find this a bit intriguing so feel like reporting your handles but can’t be bothered to learn Wikipedia so in depth. Moderators note, there are rivalries and pages under attack should make this page protected from now onwards. I don;t agree with edits and I am a part time editor, not someone who sits on this site and makes it his job. Is this to do with Russia? (talk)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Reviewing admins, please note that have been almost exclusively on Draft:Vaibhav Maloo, requests for unprotection of salted Vaibhav Maloo, Vaibhav Vinay Maloo, WP:Articles for deletion/Vaibhav Vinay Maloo Vinay Maloo, Enso Group, and other directly connected articles.  Storchy (talk) 06:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep : This wikipedia article seems live before 2014 and for over 8 years no one seems having issue with this article. Vinay Maloo, out of my research is a notable Indian Billionare. He was ranked 32nd in the Innovators top India's billionaire chart by Business Standard in 1991. He was instrumental for Amitabh Bachchan's business recovery by being his business partner in AB Corp - which was widely covered by various medias . I have found couple of featured and secondary news references which are independent and it definetly seems pass notability. Article 1 - from The Economic Times - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/maloos-back-with-oil-core-focus/articleshow/3805672.cms, Article 2 - from Times of India - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/hfcls-maloo-may-invest-in-zicom/articleshow/1986419.cms, Article 3 - from Russian Newspaper Russia Beyond launched by Rossiyskaya Gazeta - https://www.rbth.com/economics/2015/06/08/indias_enso_group_to_take_up_projects_in_russias_far_east_43561 (This article clearly states the importance of the Indian Billionare Vinay Maloo as it says "Alexander Galushka, Minister for Russian Far East Development and Alexey Chekunkov, CEO of the Far East Development Fund, met with Vinay Maloo, Chairman of the Enso Group, one of India's largest industrial conglomerates, to discuss possibilities for the Indian group to invest in projects in the Far East" . These 3 articles are well enough to prove his notability. Jehowahyereh (talk) 03:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:LONGTIME: how long an article has been around has nothing to do with notability. Regarding the sources cited and notability, I'll add a source analysis below. Storchy (talk) 06:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - Here is a source analysis.
 * short news bulletin speculating that Maloo, head of HFCL, might invest in a company. See WP:TOI for reliability of source.
 * government promo piece from Kremlin propaganda sheet Russia Beyond, unreliable source, and interestingly the photo credit is for, one of the sockpuppets of User:Kryptonite1234, another Maloo-only account that tried to ballot-stuff WP:Articles for deletion/Vaibhav Maloo (2nd nomination).
 * , paywalled, but apparently about the company rather than the man
 * the one solid reference for the article, as noted in the nomination
 * , bare-bones profile data, any businessperson can submit these to Bloomberg
 * user-generated profile on a religious group's member directory. There's that photo from our friend User:Businessworld2013 again.
 * , HFCL company profile, doesn't mention Maloo
 * article about HFCL, doesn't mention Maloo
 * , article about HFCL and Kerry Packer, doesn't mention Maloo
 * permanent dead link, headline suggests article about Packer and HFCL again
 * , article about the list of Indian billionaires, Maloo only mentioned once in passing
 * , brief news item about HFCL promoters Nahata and Maloo resigning from HFCL
 * , article about Phillips and GE, Enso Group is briefly mentioned, but not Vinay Maloo.
 * , press release about GE, Enso is mentioned, but not Vinay Maloo.
 * , company press release that Maloo joined a board, WP:SPS, not a reliable source
 * , article about Encanto, Maloo only mentioned in passing.
 * , article about Sahara Group, Maloo only mentioned in passing
 * , another article about Sahara and Enso, paywalled so can't tell if he's even mentioned
 * , Enso company page, which says he chairs their board
 * , another press release about GE and Enso, doesn't mention Vinay Maloo
 * , another press release about GE and Enso, doesn't mention Vinay Maloo
 * , article about Strides, mentions Enso, doesn't mention Maloo
 * churnalism about Strides, mentions Enso, doesn't mention Maloo
 * Enso "who we are" page about their energy business, doesn't mention Maloo
 * , article about an airline that Enso tried to invest in, paywalled but doesn't appear to be about Maloo
 * , article about the same airline, Maloo only mentioned in passing
 * , Enso company bio page
 * "BRAND CONNECT - PAID POST", it says at the top of a gushing paid puff piece, useless as a source
 * , a "journey success story" from journeysuccessstories.com, which claims he won two awards, neither of which appear to be notable or selective
 * To summarise that list, we've got one solid article about him which appears to be from an independent, reliable source. Two others are routine coverage of the companies he works for. The rest are either passing mentions, junk, or don't even mention him. No indication of WP:SIGCOV in multiple reliable sources. Storchy (talk) 06:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Storchy you seem to have a vendetta. Your analysis is JUNK. 2402:E280:3DB6:F8:D039:83B:6DFC:356D (talk) 07:40, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You remind me of a guy called Sunil, Storchy, in my office, he is always grumpy even if someone yells at him and tells him the truth. Also, he got paid for espionage, tsk tsk. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 07:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Had to chuck him out, called the cops on him too. Just saying, your attitude reminds me of him. Moderators please note. Here is a self made billionaire with two multi billion dollar enterprises. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 07:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * comment : He definetly passes GNG. Other than the 3 reliable source I mentioned above, found another reliable secondary news source : https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/telecom/hfcls-nahata-and-maloo-may-part-ways/articleshow/1914140.cms Jehowahyereh (talk) 05:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * comment : User storchy's source analysis is funny and seems intentional for deleting the page. His first source analysis says that its a short news bulletin, where as its an 8 paragraph long article written by staff journalist Reeba Zachariah which is over 500 words. By telling so it can be seen as his intention is to delete the page on false claims. Also he is saying Russia Beyond launched by Rossiyskaya Gazeta is not reliable ??? on what grounds ??? It seems his only intention is the delte pages related to Maloo's . I am quoting 4 news references which are reliable and secondary sources which are vital for proving his notability


 * Article 1 - (10 paragraph - 500+ words article ) from The Economic Times - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/maloos-back-with-oil-core-focus/articleshow/3805672.cms
 * Article 2 (8 paragraph - 500+ words article )- from Times of India - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/hfcls-maloo-may-invest-in-zicom/articleshow/1986419.cms
 * Article 3 - (8 paragraph - 500+ words article ) Reliable news from Russian Newspaper Russia Beyond launched by Rossiyskaya Gazeta - https://www.rbth.com/economics/2015/06/08/indias_enso_group_to_take_up_projects_in_russias_far_east_43561 (This article clearly states the importance of the Indian Billionare Vinay Maloo as it says "Alexander Galushka, Minister for Russian Far East Development and Alexey Chekunkov, CEO of the Far East Development Fund, met with Vinay Maloo, Chairman of the Enso Group, one of India's largest industrial conglomerates, to discuss possibilities for the Indian group to invest in projects in the Far East".
 * Article 4 - (13 Paragraph - 500+ words article )from The Economic Times - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/telecom/hfcls-nahata-and-maloo-may-part-ways/articleshow/1914140.cms

These articles itself clearly proves his notability Jehowahyereh (talk) 06:13, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


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