Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent Smith (American football)


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The result was withdrawn by nominator.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Vincent Smith (American football)

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This is a BLP on a collegiate football player that doesn't pass the standards of either WP:NCOLLATH or WP:NGRIDIRON. All coverage is game reporting on games in which he played and is, therefore, WP:ROUTINE. There is no biographical coverage as such. Wolfson5 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Wolfson5 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:08, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Passes WP:GNG with extensive significant coverage, and arguably also passes prong 3 of WP:NCOLLATH as some of the coverage (AP, ESPN, Yahoo Sports) is national in scope. Smith was the lead running back and return specialist for Michigan, an elite Power Five team, in 2010. He was also the first Michigan player to score rushing, passing and receiving touchdowns in the same game (and also the recipient of Jadeveon Clowney's famous decapitation hit in the 2013 Outback Bowl). He received abundant coverage focused on him, not just passing mentions in game coverage. Many such sources are already included in the article. Cbl62 (talk) 22:10, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Significant coverage is extensive, examples include: (1) "Still waiting ... Michigan running back Vincent Smith looks for shot at being top ball carrier", Associated Press, 9/21/11 (part 2 here) (also picked up nationally, see here); (2) "Life after The Hit: The amazing second act for Michigan's Vincent Smith", ESPN.com, 6/22/17; (3) "Michigan's Vincent Smith modestly continues his role as the team's toughest player", The Ann Arbor News, 8/17/12 (582 words, available via NewsLibrary.com); (4) "Meet Vincent Smith, recipient of Jadeveon Clowney's famous hit and community activist", Yahoo Sports, 10/23/13; (5) "Five years later, UM's Smith can laugh about The Hit", The Detroit News, 1/1/18; (6) "Since famous collision, Smith and Clowney have had diverging paths", Toledo Blade, 12/29/18; (7) "Ex-UM player Vincent Smith cultivates support for Flint garden project, The Detroit News, 11/6/15; (8) "Devin Gardner recalls Jadeveon Clowney's brutal hit on Vincent Smith in the Outback Bowl", Mlive.com, 6/14/13; (9) "Pahokee High grads Vincent Smith, Martavious Odoms bring H.O.P.E. back to community with art, charity project", The Palm Beach Post, 4/26/13; (10) "Vincent Smith says during reddit Q&A he 'took one for the team' on Jadeveon Clowney hit", Mlive.com, 3/13/13; (11) "Smith tougher than looks", The Detroit News, 10/6/11 (559 words, available via NewsLibrary.com); (12) "Junior RB Smith makes the most of limited playing time for Michigan", Detroit Free Press, 9/18/11; (13) "Smith moves into mix to be main RB", Detroit Free Press, 9/20/11; (14) "Smith a versatile back: Wolverine can rush, catch, pass, and return kicks", The Toledo Blade, 10/4/11; (15) "Smith completes rare TD triple play", Detroit Free Press, 10/2/11; (16) "The Hit that keeps on giving, Detroit Free Press, 3/8/13; (17) "Smith gets his chance to shine after watching from the sideline", The Michigan Daily, 10/21/09; (18) "Smith emerges as Michigan's third featured running back", The Michigan Daily, 9/20/11; (19) Five years later, The Hit lives on for Jadeveon Clowney, Vincent Smith, Houston Chronicle, 12/30/17; (20) "Cultivating community, one garden at a time", The Michigan Alumnus, Summer 2016; (21) "Michigan junior Vincent Smith enters lead running back debate", The Ann Arbor News, 9/17/11; (22) "Vincent Smith, Urban Gardener", My City Magazine, 4/4/16. Cbl62 (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cbl62. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 (talk) 23:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:NCOLLATH. Cbl62 has found quite a bit of information to show this WP:N Lightburst (talk) 00:18, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdraw as Nom due to coverage found by Cbl62 dated after 2012. All the coverage prior to 2012 is simply Smith being mentioned in game reports, which is ROUTINE; it doesn't matter if Smith is mentioned in 10,000 different articles in RS if those articles are simply ROUTINE coverage about his profession (in this case game reportage). But the post-2012 coverage are not game reports, are not routine, and are significant enough to pass WP:ANYBIO. Wolfson5 (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


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