Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viola Question


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Viola Question

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A student comedy group that appears non-notable; no sources present demonstrating notability by anything like the Notability (music) standard for music groups, which might be the most relevant notability guideline. Not every student group needs/deserves a Wikipedia article. Tagged for merger into Yale University for more than a year, but it would seem inappropriate to mention this small comedy group in the university article. Quick google search yielded trivial coverage in the sense described at wp:MUSIC, i.e., little that seems independent from the group's own promotion. doncram (talk) 18:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:GNG. Truthsort (talk) 19:15, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 14:34, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge - I've tried looking up information on this particular group and have found little in non-yale sources. In my opinion, the article should be truncated and added to a new Comedy at Yale article, which would include the Red Hot Poker (Yale), Ex!t Players & The Purple Crayon as well. The various groups aren't particularly notable independently, but as a whole would make a good article. Markvs88 (talk) 14:59, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should delete them all. Those other articles have no significant sources either, and appear not notable.  I am not familiar with how to set up a combo AFD discussion, if there is such a thing.  Otherwise, do we proceed by opening separate AFDs on each of them?  But for here, now, the question is whether to delete this article on Viola Question.  I think that the existence of other articles does not change the appropriateness of deleting this one, as i proposed. --doncram (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You are incorrect on that, Doncram. The VQ article has a citation from Yale, which is verifiable. The other articles (mostly) do have citations. It makes more sense to merge them into one article with sections than to just erase them, as the four would make an article with several good citations. I would say we create the Yale Comedy page and put merge notices on all of them. I think that since all four articles are basically the same topic (comedy troops at Yale), they all relate to one another. Markvs88 (talk) 17:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm incorrect in my thinking we should delete them? That is my current opinion.  Let's hope that some others will comment.  Process-wise, I don't think this AFD forum suffices to be a deciding point for merging of all those other articles into one new article.  Perhaps notice of this AFD should be given at each of their Talk pages though. --doncram (talk) 20:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I meant that they mostly do have significant sources, I was not commenting about your opinion. Yes, that is a good idea. Markvs88 (talk) 21:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete as non-notable. I would have said Merge to Yale University, but Yale has so many of these groups that they can't even mention them all at the main Yale article; there is a separate article called List of Yale University student organizations. The present article could be redirected to that list, if desired; otherwise delete. --MelanieN (talk) 14:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, most of the article is unsourced and, perhaps more importantly, unsourceable. The only substantive information I can find is from primary or near-primary sources such Yale Daily News articles, which is to be expected (and per WP:GNG, should be considered a single source regardless), press release-style content, etc. -- Kinu  t /c  14:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.