Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Violet Edwards (politician)


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Violet Edwards (politician)

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County-level politician, fails WP:NPOL. References consist largely of close sources (person's own website and LinkedIn profile), election candidacy/results announcements, and the like. With what's left, I cannot see this meeting WP:GNG notability. (And that's before even broaching the subject of likely COI editing.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. County commission is not a level of office that guarantees automatic inclusion rights under WP:NPOL — to be notable for this, she would have to show reliable source coverage in real media, of a volume and depth and geographic range that clearly marked her out as significantly more notable than most other county councillors. It's not enough to just show a couple of WP:MILL hits in her own county's local media — and the overwhelming majority of the sources here are bad ones that are not support for notability at all, such as blogs and her own campaign website and her own social networking profiles and her staff profiles on the self-published websites of her own employers and raw tables of election results. And no, "first [insert underrepresented minority group here] to do this not inherently notable thing in her own county" is not an instant notability freebie, either — if being elected to a county council had made her the first black woman officeholder in the entire history of the entire United States, then she would probably have a case for inclusion as a historic first, but if her firstness is limited to her own county, then that doesn't fulfill the "significantly more notable than most other county councillors" test in and of itself. Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced much, much, much better than this. Also worth noting that the creator previously tried to make this happen through the AFC process at Draft:Violet Edwards, and then after the second rejection at AFC they just bypassed that process and directly created this in articlespace instead of attempting to improve and resubmit the AFC draft any further — which, needless to say, is not how the AFC process works. Bearcat (talk) 07:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Bearcat's well reasoned argument on why county commissioners are not default notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This article is built on Linkedin (which is both unreliable and does not help notability) and routine local election reports. WP:BEFORE turns up more local news reports. Fails WP:NPOL. This is maybe the best source we have, but it's basically an alumni interview. The attempt to circumvent the AfC process is displeasing and should not be encouraged. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


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