Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Violet Song jat Shariff


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The result was   Merge and Redirect. Foxy Loxy Pounce! 22:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Violet Song jat Shariff

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This character does not establish notability independent of its film through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of original research and unnecessary plot details. There is no current assertion for future improvement. TTN (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep She's the protagonist! although I think the film unimportant, I suppose it qualifies as a "cult classic". I am more and more amazed at  these nominations, which seem to be in ignorance of the subject of the articles being nominated. Given the references at the main article, some of these will discuss her. and, does the nominator actually oppose a redirect for the protagonist of a notable film? If you do, it would be helpful to know why.  DGG (talk) 02:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge - I think there is enough info to identify the character's role in the movie. Next time when you nominate AfDs, don't say 'the character does not assert notabliity independent of its film/game/etc.' Characters are not made to leap out into the real world and get famous with us - they are there to make the plot move. Sounds to me as a really lame AfD nom and a hopeless, bad-faith one. - ÆÅM «(fætsøn!) 05:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. As the nominator said, the character is not significant outside of the film, plus half the page is just restating the plot of UltraViolet and the rest of the page could be integrated into the film's article. However, since the name of the protagonist is a likely search term, the page should redirect to UltraViolet (film). I see "independent notability" is challenged above, but the film does not necessarily confer any notability to the individual, even the protagonist, and thus they don't always deserve their own Wikipedia article. This is similar to articles created for every single episode of a TV series: each episode moves the plot along, but by no means are each of them notable. If the character was analysed or appropriated in other works, they might warrant their own article, but I don't see why this stub should be isolated from the texts that establish her as a character. [Phlygh  t ]  18:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect Not signifigant outside of the film. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Ultraviolet (film). Majority of article is written in in-universe style with repetitive content from film article and provides no sources for any content. There is possibly a scope for growth considering that a novel and anime have been created post the feature film, if someone wishes to revisit the history of article. LeaveSleaves talk 20:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


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