Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viona Ielegems


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The result was Delete. Moreschi Talk 11:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Viona Ielegems

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A photographer of pale-faced girls in forests. In contrast to modern photography Ielegems deviates from strict realism in art, the article tells us: this may come as a considerable surprise to many modern fashion photographers, let alone photographers in other genres. No claim is made for book publication. However, claims are made for exhibitions. Despite numerous polite appeals on the article's talk page, virtually all the evidence for these exhibitions come via Ielegems's own website. I shall Assume Good Something-or-other and shall take all of these as truthful. One was held at Antwerp and is shown here; it seems to have lasted from February till March of some illegible year. Another, in Luxembourg, lasted a single evening (shown here). A third, in Beijing, also lasted a single evening (here) and seems to have been as much a party as an exhibition. The sole independent source (here) is for the Luxembourg exhibition and puts our photographer within "a continuously changing group exhibition that runs for nine weeks during the Summer season. A great number of domestic and international artists from all disciplines will be presenting their work". There are two other apparently independent sources cited: this interview on what appears to be the private site of one Simona Vinati, and some article in Dark-Spy-Magazine, which I suppose refers to "Europas größtes Schwarz-Bizarres Musikmagazin!!" (not a magazine of photography). So, there's been just one exhibition of any possible note (though no claim is made that it attracted any critical attention that got into print), an article in an obscure magazine, and a privately-published interview. This is very thin stuff indeed, for an article to which there are links from Goth subculture, Neo-romanticism, and Neo-Victorian. Some claims (the contrast to modern photography) aren't credible, some (the exhibitions) aren't verifiable and perhaps aren't notable, the remainder isn't even slightly noteworthy. -- Hoary 07:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, no reliable sources reviewing work and explaining importance. Nothing in Google News Archive. Fails WP:BIO. --Dhartung | Talk 07:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree with the above. Not notable as a photographer, requests to provide sources have gone unanswered. Peter1968 08:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - source do not support notability. --Haemo 09:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: An IP has just now removed all the references to exhibitions (with no explanation). -- Hoary 01:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Reason for removing: Generally non accepted content and references need to deletion Armilos
 * NonDelete for higher importance and publicity of artist in world-wide goth scene (style icon) Armilos
 * NonDelete Google News of North America is not the foremost arbiter of relevance. Digging a little deeper, I get the impression that she is known in Europe, and even has a certain following among artists and photographers in the US. Krychek 21:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Question: where did you dig, and just what did you find there that gave you this impression? -- Hoary 22:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


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