Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Virginia Citizens Defense League


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The result was Keep as I believe my searches have also found there's enough for at least an improvable article and there's enough to suggest it's moderately known. I would've voted but this seems enough to close for now (NAC). SwisterTwister  talk  04:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Virginia Citizens Defense League

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This organization is not notable. Notability (organizations and companies) : "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. " It hasn't been the subject of any articles, and isn't mentioned at all outside of its own state. Just one publicity stunt that got some coverage when they sued the DA. There's talk page complaints about the article. Felsic2 (talk) 23:48, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep Nom is simply incorrect in asserting that :"isn't mentioned at all outside of its own state." Here is a description of the group in a book published by a mainstream press; group gets quite a number of hits on google book ;  and there is a great deal of coverage (by no means all in-state) in news archive searches, Proquest here [http://search.proquest.com/news/results/2C73E5B9959F4188PQ/1/$7b$22limiters$22:$5b$5d,$22mqlversion$22:$221.2$22,$22v$22:$221$22,$22sort$22:$22relevance$22,$22param$22:$7b$22NAVIGATORS$22:$22facetlist,sourcetype,decade$28filter$3d110$2f0$2f*,sort$3dname$2fascending$29,year$28filter$3d1100$2f0$2f*,sort$3dname$2fascending$29,yearmonth$28filter$3d120$2f0$2f*,sort$3dname$2fascending$29,month$28sort$3dname$2fascending$29,day$28sort$3dname$2fascending$29,pubTitle,objectype,language$22,$22LEMMATIZE$22:$22true$22,$22collapseDuplicates$22:$22$22,$22collection$22:$22MSTAR,Patents$22,$22qtf_synonym:use_dictionaries$22:$22short_spellvars.aut$22,$22RESUBMITFLAGS$22:$227984$22,$22ftblock$22:$22740842+1+660848+670831+194104+194001+670829+194000+660843+660840+104$22,$22removeDuplicates$22:$22true$22,$22ENCODING$22:$22utf-8$22,$22NAVIGATION$22:$22true$22,$22RS$22:$22OP$22,$22qtf_synonym:querysynonyms$22:$22true$22,$22SPELL$22:$22suggest$22,$22bundles$22:$221006742+1006744+1008414+1008416+1007154+1006446+1006442+1008804+1006953+1006956+1006959+1008595+1006673+1006051+1006097+1005670+1007144+1007716+1006058+1006056+1008425+1006091+1008526+1005879+1006910+1005672+1005878+1005877+1005671+1005678+1006151+1005676+1006193+1006968+1006730+1007272+1005635+1006089+1005685+1007330+1000282+1006728+1006729+1005880+1006359+1008712+1006360+1005696+1005692+1005916+1007874+1007871+1006418+1008500+1006417+1000278+1005701+1007624$22,$22chunkSize$22:$2250$22,$22DUPREM_SLOT1$22:$22bsumdupid$22,$22QT_PIPELINE$22:$22scopesearch$22,$22instance$22:$22prod.academic$22$7d,$22serializer$22:$22std1.5$22,$22searchterms$22:$5b$7b$22name$22:$22$22,$22qry$22:$22$5c$22Virginia+Citizens+Defense+League$5c$22$22,$22fld$22:$22citationBody$22,$22top$22:$22AND$22$7d$5d,$22navs$22:$5b$5d,$22meta$22:$7b$22UsageSearchMode$22:$22Advanced$22,$22dbselections$22:$22news$22,$22SEARCH_ID_TIMESTAMP$22:$221458928677369$22,$22siteLimiters$22:$22SourceType,+DocumentType,+Language$22$7d,$22querytype$22:$22advanced:news$22$7d?accountid=10226], although I am aware of no rule that statewide notability is insufficient.   Also, although another user recently voted to delete an article on the grounds that if I wasn't willing to re-write it, I must be lying when I said that it was notable,  I don't have the time to source every notable topic that I find at AFD.  And (full disclosure) I am pro gun control and suspect that this is why I lack even the inclination to source/expand/rewrite the page properly.  But I try to be fair minded and I really can find no reason to deny the notability of this group. E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:15, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Organization is notable per links provided by E.M. Gregory.--JayJasper (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


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