Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Virtonomics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Spartaz Humbug! 03:23, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Virtonomics

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The fifth recreation of an article on this topic within six weeks prompted me to bring it to the community for a more permanent solution. This appears to be a commercial product with no reliable sources documenting any notability; my brief Google search revealed nothing useful to bolster this article. If there is something notable about this topic, let's document it or dispose of the topic. Accounting4Taste: talk 18:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete  I cannot find any coverage in reliable sources. --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep As pointed out by Sergomen1 below, this is a notable Russian game under the name Virtonomica (Виртономика). I cannot read Russian, but I don't think all these are press releases. --Apoc2400 (talk) 20:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help!

Sergomen1 (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I received a note on my talk page from the article's most recent creator, which I reproduce here: "Unfortunately, I have not much experience in the preparation of articles in the Wiki. This explains the large number of unsuccessful previous attempts to create this article. Virtonomics there long enough (more than 6 years in Russian under the name Virtonomica). In the Russian language Internet is indeed a very significant phenomenon, and perhaps the most popular project economic game. This business simulation actually use many Russian universities as a training program. In 2007 Virtonomica was recognized as the best business simulation in Russian language Internet. In English-speaking Internet has few references to Virtonomica (English-speaking project name - Virtonomics) because the game only recently translated into English. Here are some links to Russian-language sources about the game Virtonomica (Virtonomics):
 * http://www.businesspress.ru/newspaper/article_mId_21961_aId_441881.html ,
 * http://moneynews.ru/9359/ ,
 * http://www.moneycreativity.com/news.php?newsId=701 ,
 * http://edublogs.global.uillinois.edu/anish2/2009/12/10/online-game-simulation-evaluation /.

Unfortunately, most sources still in Russian. I really hope that after all you do not erase this article, because this project really represents a very interesting phenomenon, and quite unique and useful for many people interested in business and economics. Sincerely, Sergomen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergomen1 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC) "
 * Whoops, forgot to add my own signature. I have tried to be helpful to this individual elsewhere and have advised him to add references directly to the article.  Accounting4Taste: talk 22:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep at least pro tem... (pending new references). I know that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but there has been an article on the Russian language Википедии since 2006 without any deletion attempts that I've spotted. There are a lot of ghits for Виртономика (including a forum with falling snowflakes that I could have done without after my business trip today...) - but my Russian isn't good enough, and nor is my time unlimited to check them all out. I would suggest that a Russian speaking person could do well to post some references that are not blogs, forums or company based sites which is what the few I've been into are, as are the given refs in the article. Over to you - I might change my mind if you can't produce... Peridon (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear friends, thank you very much for your help. I have added an article about 10 different links to big and famous Russia's media over the last 4 years, which are discussed in various contexts game Virtonomica (Virtonomics). I really hope this will help preserve the article. If necessary, I can do for you to translate some articles into English, so you can see that this is not advertising articles and press releases, this interview, analytical articles, reviews and news. Sincerely, sergomen Sergomen1 (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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