Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Virtual Wards


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. --Ezeu 22:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Virtual Wards
Delete - Clearly spam/vanity (article creator developed it). Few relevant Google hits, no given sources, etc... Seems like we've getting quite a bit of medical website/software spam recently... Wickethewok 23:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello, How do I quote sources please? Geraint — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraintlewis (talk • contribs) 00:01, 26 May 2006

PS It's nothing to do with a medical website or software company but a new invention within the NHS

http://www.ukhcc.com/event/ltc/ltc_prog3.html#1 http://www.networks.nhs.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=4810&mode=threaded http://www.bma.org/ap.nsf/Content/socialcaredischarges http://www.nhsalliance.org/cgi-bin/data/event00073.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraintlewis (talk • contribs) 00:09, 26 May 2006


 * Delete - full of marketing wank. Signal to noise ratio too low. - Richardcavell 00:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm kind of unsure about this one -- the concept seems potentially notable enough, but it does indeed look like marketing wank. I'd love to see someone in the know weigh in on whether this is actually an article-worthy topic. Oh, and Geraint, please sign the messages you leave on talk pages by typing four tildes (~) at the end of your posts. Makes it so much easier to figure out who said what and when. -- Captain Disdain 01:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep -- describes (admittedly another) UK Govt ploy for "care in the community". In this case, letting people die at home, to reduce the published statistics for deaths in hospitals. -- SockpuppetSamuelson

It's only "marketing" insofar as I think it's a good idea which health trusts across the UK are choosing to adopt freely. The whole point is to provide more support for the most complex patients in their own homes. There's no "government ploy", it's not under copyright idea, and I certainly don't make any money out of it!Geraintlewis 09:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge with Primary Care Trust, redirect and cleanup. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem with the idea of merging with Primary Care Trusts is that virtual wards are multisectoral, i.e. they cross over between health (PCT, hospital trust, ambulance trust, GP practice) as well as social care. We know that these complex patients nearly all have both health and social needs. Geraintlewis 16:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep and tag as articles needing sources.--Nick Y. 18:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added a couple of external sites Geraintlewis 10:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak keep and comment I'm not sure if this important or notable, but if I heard about this somewhere, I'd come here first looking for more info. --D-Rock (Yell at D-Rock) 16:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.