Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vivaan Solar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is clear that the sourcing doesn't help in the subject passing our notability guidelines. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:59, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Vivaan Solar

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Contested WP:PROD. Lacks the multiple reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability required by WP:GNG. Offered instead is a blizzard of WP:CITESPAM comprised of primary sources created by subject and noise-level listings. Googling turned up nothing useful. Msnicki (talk) 09:04, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The editor Msnicki has said 'A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Vivaan Solar is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.' But i have added variety of secondary resources including government sources, what else can be done to improve the wiki page.


 * Joydeep ghosh (talk) 13:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I tried to explain the problem and what would be needed about a week ago on the article talk page.  It wasn't helpful?  You didn't ask any followup questions.  Msnicki (talk) 16:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * To the editor Msnicki i ask again what else can be done to improve the article. Let me explain this to you. In India not many companies are interested in spending money on promotion in any media, only now some have started to use social media as its free. In this page only the 'government support' section is where you wont find mention of Vivaan Solar, but the support by govt. under various initiatives. You may question it, but i thinks its important to include it as govt. support is the reason for many companies venturing into solar power in India. The govt. support is both the incentive and subsidy. In rest all sections you will find ample mention of Vivaan Solar coroborated with secondary sources. Whay else do i need to do to imoprove the article.
 * 11:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)11:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joydeep ghosh (talk • contribs)


 * To the editor Msnicki i ask again what can be done to improve the article, will removing the section 'goverment support' help?
 * 05:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)05:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)05:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joydeep ghosh (talk • contribs)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. GabeIglesia (talk) 15:32, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GabeIglesia (talk) 15:32, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No reliable sources that I found. 41 links in the page and almost none to none are good sources. Not notable. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 15:43, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I contest the ThePlatypusofDoom and ask this person to please go through the links and read with patience to find reference to vivaan solar. some of the links are govt sources, which can be considered as notable.
 * Joydeep ghosh (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I contest this by asking the editor Msnicki is to please understand that this page is about particular company which is into solar business, its not like hollywood/bollywood where huge lot of info may be available. This company is a mid sized company, but that doesnot mean a wikipage cant be created. The bulk of content added in the wiki page from primary source can be corroborated from secondary sources. Also the total number of secondary links added are more than primary links; which should be enough to prove the content added is not fake. Request you to take your time and read through the secondary sources that talk about the same thing as the primary sources. If primary and secondary source talk about same thing or secondary source does well to corroborate the primary sources; what else needs to be done to make this page notable. I have asked you earlier, and i ask you again, what can be done to improve the page.
 * 08:49, 21 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joydeep ghosh (talk • contribs)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as there are some sources but this is still questionable overall, somewhat newly founded company with nothing confidently suggesting keeping. SwisterTwister   talk  19:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I contest this by asking the User talk:SwisterTwister is to please understand that this page is about particular company which is into solar business, its not like hollywood/bollywood where huge lot of info may be available. This company is a mid sized company, but that doesnot mean a wikipage cant be created. The bulk of content added in the wiki page from primary source can be corroborated from secondary sources. Also the total number of secondary links added are more than primary links; which should be enough to prove the content added is not fake. Request you to take your time and read through the secondary sources that talk about the same thing as the primary sources. If primary and secondary source talk about same thing or secondary source does well to corroborate the primary sources; some of which are govt sources, what else needs to be done to make this page notable. Let me explain this to you in another way. In India not many companies are interested in spending money on promotion in any media, only now some have started to use social media as its free. In this wiki page only the 'government support' section is where you wont find mention of Vivaan Solar, but the support by govt. under various initiatives. You may question it, but i thinks its important to include it as govt. support is the reason for many companies venturing into solar power in India. The govt. support is both the incentive and subsidy. In rest all sections you will find ample mention of Vivaan Solar coroborated with secondary sources. What else do i need to do to improve the article.
 * 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)Joydeep ghosh (talk)


 * It's not necessary or helpful to keep repeating the same lengthy argument about the subject being in the solar business, etc., especially as all of this is basically irrelevant to WP:NOTABILITY, the only question we consider at WP:AFD. You may find helpful guidance on notability at WP:GNG and on how to argue your position at WP:DISCUSSAFD.  No one doubts your sincerity nor does anyone appear to doubt that what your article reports is likely true.  The reason we are recommending the page be deleted is because we do not believe there are sources to establish notability, which we define in a more technical way than in common use.  This cannot be fixed simply by writing a better article.  It can only be fixed by finding better sources, which don't appear to exist.  Please follow the links I've given you; I think they will help explain the problem.  Msnicki (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Joydeep gosh, you only have ONE vote. You do not need to repeat this. Your argument is logical, but this is not notable, and you can't "Make it better". Notability can't be changed by the editor. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 16:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


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