Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vivien Keszthelyi (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:44, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Vivien Keszthelyi
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This horribly promotional biographical article was inappropriately moved from draftspace to mainspace by, in a rare and uncharacteristic display of poor judgment by this editor. DGG advised that the only way to re-draftify it would be via the AfD process. So here we are. Re-draftify, preferably speedily if at all possible. —S Marshall T/C 01:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I am only here for discussion, I saw that her other Wikipedia pages from different languages were not linked to the page, thus I did it in order for the editors to see them. I think that improving the article is more appropriate than nominating for deletion, as the page for Articles for deletion states at subtitle 'Before nominating: checks and alternatives': C. Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for AfD. I would also like to ask where you think the problem lies, as you have not given an explanation to your concerns. --Alberto1125 (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Alberto1125
 * "Horribly promotional" was my explanation of the problem, in my nomination statement above. It's very obviously a puff piece. It may well be fixable but a consensus exists (at WP:AN/CXT) that these articles generated by the content translation tool prior to a date in summer 2016, and listed on the draftification list from that page, should be moved to draft space until the fixing happens -- noting that the original creator is blocked, this will need to be done by third parties.—S Marshall T/C 16:14, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as thoroughly promotional and at the very most borderline notable. The translation is not the problem; the underlying content and notability is. Trying to handle this ias a translation problem is not an appropriate use of the special speedy criterion.  DGG ( talk ) 02:59, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 19:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 19:19, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, question: so none of the races that Keszthelyi has competed in are covered by WP:NMOTORSPORT? Coolabahapple (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct: none of them are. Formula 3 isn't "fully professional" within the meaning of NMOTORSPORT.—S Marshall T/C 21:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks, so this is a delete as not meeting WP:NMOTORSPORT. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:06, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Is it that much different from for example Lewis Hamilon's wikipedia page though? The stated 'records' are supported by 2-3 sources each, the races she competed in are noted from the start. I understand the problems noted by the previous comments, but to delete the page rather than editing it just seems an extreme action. --Alberto1125 (talk) 15:44, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Lewis Hamilton races in Formula 1 which is an entirely different matter.—S Marshall T/C 21:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


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