Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vogue Institute of Art & Design


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. It is open to editors to discuss the potential for a merge, redirect, or other editorial actions on the talk page, or indeed to just go ahead and do them. Stifle (talk) 15:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Vogue Institute of Art & Design

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This article is a straightaway PR/Advertising WP:PROMO, made by a dubious ID that went live a month ago to get this page active. Besides that, the entity itself lacks WP:SIGCOV and has no significant encyclopedic value in the first place. Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. Hatchens (talk) 03:10, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Hatchens (talk) 03:10, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The creator of this article is User:Randfiskin is also involved in launching (trying to work up on) non-notable wiki pages in a very short period such as Cyber Peace Foundation (CPF), V-NOVA and Draft:Vibhav Kant Upadhyay which have been earlier either deleted or moved to draft space for various reasons. Though the ID itself was made in 2017, it went active on July 1, 2020, by performing its first edit at Juli Berwald's page. As per my basic understanding, this ID is probably involved in "Paid Edits/WP:PAID" without disclosure. Kindly note, due diligence is required. (Similar comment has been added to the other AfDs). -Hatchens (talk) 03:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: All the claims are baseless and there is no evidence of paid. Note this account is created in March 2020 and the user is only interested to deleting the articles no matter whether it is notable or not you may check the history.
 * Special Note: This user is attacking the article and playing with good articles. Most of his nominations are false and saved as "Keep" or "Speedy Keep". Such as IILM Institute for Higher Education, Care Hospitals, Krishna Shankar, Ansal University, Radio Mango, Zambar Restaurent, Baseer Ali, Liam Brennan, Dinesh Parmar, Biplob, Rachel Goenka, Pramati Technologies, Sayantani Guhathakurta, Shivin Narang, Artech, Audrish Banerjee, and there is a long list of "Keep" result. This account must be blocked immediately. He is destroying good articles on Wikipedia. Randfiskin (talk) 05:36, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: @Randfiskin, your allegation is duly accepted. If an article passes the AfD on its merit, then well and good. If not, then it gets deleted as per the consensus. That's why I have initiated this AfD discussion. Let everyone chip in and let the sanity prevail. (Same comment has been added to other two AfD nominations - Cyber Peace Foundation and V-NOVA). -Hatchens (talk) 06:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The institute is affiliated to Bengaluru North University and having enough citations to justify notability and clearly passes WP:GNG and WP:NACADEMIC. Randfiskin (talk) 05:59, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Kindly do note, this Keep vote, is added by the creator of this article. -Hatchens (talk) 06:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Again baseless comment which has no meaning. While creator has rights to vote or comment on his own article. This is the same comment posted on all other discussion.Randfiskin (talk) 06:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Dear Randfiskin. This comment is for those who will chip in their views. It is not meant to stop you but to notify others. Now what else I can write, if you are defending all your three created articles (including - V-NOVA and Cyber_Peace_Foundation_(CPF)) in the same manner. I know it's very hard for you, kindly adjust for the greater good. So, my request is don't be aggressive. Kindly, stay calm and freely participate in this AfD discussion. -Hatchens (talk) 06:29, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a template for this: Page creator. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 02:46, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Question for, you state the article passes WP:NACADEMIC. Can you explain how this article passes this guideline?

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Special Note: The creator of this article has notified the nominator of this AfD to WP:ANB. Kindly follow that parallel discussion by clicking here. -Hatchens (talk) 03:14, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * keep and remove he spam (which I have just done). This is no worse than the many hundred similar articles on college in India and elsewhere ( I know this is a ver y weak argument---what we ought to do is deal with the other similar articles also, but I see no point in singling this one out) ; normally I would say merge with  Bengaluru North University  if it is affiliated with it, except that article gives me the impression that the reorganization of the institute is still in flux, or at least very unclear form the material now available to us.  DGG ( talk ) 03:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 *  On the fence  We depend on whether the Deccan Herald is WP:RS. If it is, despite the very gossip column nature of the coverage then I would have to say that we keep the article. If it is not then I shift to deletion. The majority of the references are highly borderline. The verify that it exists, but not that it is notable. I often agree with, though I differ mildly here. I think we need to insist that poor articles are improved or removed, and that we have to start somewhere.Perhaps the nominator woudl enquire at WP:RSN and let us know about the DECCAN HERALD. I will be happy to stop sitting on the fence given that information Fiddle   Faddle  11:18, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I checked with WP:RSN. No such great discussion on Deccan Herald. Here are the links, which I pulled out - 1, and 2. I suppose it can be counted as a local news source. - Hatchens (talk) 11:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , If we have to count it as a local news source, while I dislike the style of journalism, I think we have to treat it as reliable. Unless you can discover differently I have to come down on the side of Keep Fiddle   Faddle  11:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I appreciate your "take" on this and it actually gave me the clarity too. Thanks for being part of my learning process. - Hatchens (talk) 11:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I think Tim Trent and I agree that nobody is ever oblidged to improve an article of this nature. Whether one chooses to do depends on many thing,, including not just interest in the field, but time available. Most such articles I see l don't attempt to keep from deletion, there isn't time or energy enough to do otherwise. But once it has been fixed, the article as fixed is the one that should be judged, regardless of what  was originally submitted.  DGG ( talk ) 04:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:51, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:FORK. The main article at Bengaluru North University is not so large it can't be added. Bearian (talk) 22:37, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bengaluru North University. Which are the WP:THREE here? I am not seeing dispassionate, independent and significant looking coverage among the references. I feel the merge (redirect, but with content added to the target) would be inappropriate because "being affiliated to" is not the kind of relationship that necessarily makes the two topics closely-knit enough to get content merger without compromising FOCUS, SCOPE and DUE WEIGHTAGE (emphasis on "necessarily"). Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that many "merge" closes at AFD end up implemented as "redirect"s; such unnecessarily raise unpleasantness, so I prefer to make the distinction clear right away. Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Tertiary, degree-awarding institution. Being affiliated to another university does not mean part of that university. As has been pointed out many times, merging them is inappropriate. Affiliated colleges are independent institutions. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL/WP:ORGCRIT. There are not reliable, independent, secondary sources, that address the topic directly and in depth. Merging or redirectin is inappropriate because as indicated above being affiliated to another university does not mean part of that university.  // Timothy ::  talk  18:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.