Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Volt Europa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (non-admin closure) Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 07:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Volt Europa

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 * As mentioned before, I have the feeling that the page is self-promoting at a certain extent and despite improvements (a promo video ad?)
 * The claimed membership of this political organization remains unverified, 25.000 people; the so-called sources would be a local Italian newspaper and a national English newspaper which says the political organization claims to have that membership; on its own website there's no mention of any membership whatsoever
 * User Venz87, a contributor to the page, seems to be the president of this political association according to its own website, alias Andrea Venzon born in 1987; but of course, just an assumption
 * there are no elected members at any public level of any country where it participates to elections; an anonymous suggested in the discussion page to wait for the result of the next European elections, but my logics (which might well be wrong) brings me back to the logic that this article could be used indeed as a promo, rather than an encyclopedia content I leave it up to you for discussion -- Torne (talk) 13:10, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep None of those are reasons to delete the article. Take it to the talk page and be WP:BOLD Kleuske (talk) 13:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Kleuske, in your opinion which are valid reasons for the deletion of a so-called political organization? -- Torne (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * the typical deletion reason is lack of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. If fact, you were supposed to check this WP:BEFORE nominating for deletion. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Finnusertop, thanks for your feedback. Obviously I did, and I think there's definitely a lack of coverage around newspapers, news, books and various outlets related to the topic, mainly political. You can verify it easily yourself, and I invite anybody else to do the same. I'm happy I called the main contributors of the page to express their opinion here (basically all the ones which are advising to keep), they think the topic is well covered around, I question that. My conclusion is that Volt Europa is known almost exclusively from those who somehow deal with it daily and not to a wider audience. I forgot a mention to Kleuske, I don't see any need to be bold in the discussion page, because I don't see the purpose for the article's discussion page to exist altogether. One final remark, as I said I was glad to call in the main contributors to the article, I just wish more opinions would be expressed in order to have a strong and neutral discussion. Thanks once more -- Torne (talk) 08:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


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 * Keep That pan-European party is running for elections in several countries at once, it's currently in the media every single day (which would be impossible without a decent amount of members), and the fact if their president is also editing on Wikipedia or not is hardly relevant. Dracona94 (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, there does not seem to be any reason either stated or unstated to delete this. The party exists and is in the news. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Party is running for elections in 8 countries, already appears in opinion polls. Furthermore it is notable suing the German election information online tool Wahl-O-Mat (over 6 million users). The tool was subsequently taken offline. WolreChris (talk) 20:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. there is plenty of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Rathfelder (talk) 15:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is a huge amount of media coverage around the party. Franco-German TV network Arte for instance did a documentary on Volt. There are plenty of radio shows and podcasts and also more than 207.000.000 results for "Volteurope" on Google.  --Colofonius (talk) 08:44, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Right now it looks like they won at least one seat in the European Parliament.  Wefa (talk) 18:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Why would you delete an article about a political party simply because the article is poor quality? (It legitimately is a poor-quality article - the first sentence is meaningless.) Kennethmac2000 (talk) 19:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Party has gained at least 1 EP seat in Germany yesterday. It has shown to be relevant now. The article must be rewritten, not deleted. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – Reviewed most of the 47 sources; a few seem to make this sufficient for GNG. ––Redditaddict69 (talk) (contribs)  08:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Can be pruned, but there's at least a stub's worth of content. Banak (talk) 10:06, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The party just won a seat in the European Parliament. --Rasdus (talk) 12:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Any political agitation or NPOV breaches can and should be edited out and any badly sourced claims should definitely be deleted, but this doesn't require deleting the entire page. The fact of the matter is that Wikipedia already has plenty of articles on political parties that don't have any national or supranational representation, I don't see how this one is any different. If it's notable enough, it warrants an article IMO. Plus, for better or for worse, they just won a seat in the EU parliament. Goodposts (talk) 14:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep has lots of coverage, as well as an MEP. Greenleader(2) (talk) 14:43, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep has an elected MEP, the article will obviously be light on detail but it's significance renders it a keep. -- Hermit 20xx 17:59, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep As above. St. Alex (talk) 00:29, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.