Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voxel Tycoon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Consensus was to delete, and the page creator requested it as well. – Athaenara ✉  14:45, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Voxel Tycoon

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Fail WP:GNG. Topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. No coverage whatsoever from reliable video game web sources. The1337gamer (talk) 18:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. The1337gamer (talk) 18:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep: While it is true that there is not much outside information on Voxel Tycoon yet, this is because it has not yet been released. I would prefer if the article were kept until the game is released, and then if it is still not sufficiently covered by independent and reliable sources a reasonable amount of time afterwards (say, a week or two) then deletion is an acceptable action to take. DesertPipeline (talk) 19:47, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Original nominator is correct. Deletion immediately is completely reasonable. I will recreate the article when there are reliable, independent sources on the subject of the game. DesertPipeline (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Why did you create an article on topic that no coverage whatsoever from reliable, independent sources? We don't create articles on topics that aren't notable and have zero coverage. Your keep vote means nothing if you can't back it up with policy-based argument. Your reasoning actually supports my proposal for deleting the article because you've admitted that their is no coverage whatsoever. Saying "Hey, there might be some websites covering in a couple of weeks." is not even close to an acceptable argument for keeping the article. --The1337gamer (talk) 20:19, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There isn't zero coverage. There are videos people unrelated to the developers have made talking about the game. On the first page when Googling "Voxel Tycoon" (quotes included) there is a site called "gamingonlinux" that talks about the game. On the second page, "indieretronews". It's not much, but it's not zero. There are people aware of this game, and what is the harm in an article on it? This isn't another one of those utterly awful "games" released by a "developer" on Steam for quick cash. DesertPipeline (talk) 20:28, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Videos from random people on the internet are not reliable sources. This is encyclopedia that has a policies and guidelines. We write articles on topics that have significant coverage from reliable sources. Otherwise we'd have millions of articles on nonsense. There are thousands of trash games released on Steam every year but we don't have articles on all of them for a reason. There is reason we have deletion policy. Spend some time reading it, as well as Wikipedia's other policies, before you start creating articles. --The1337gamer (talk) 20:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you not notice where I said (not in your words) that this game is precisely not another "trash game released on Steam"? If that were the case, it would already be released, because people who try and make a quick profit off a very poor quality game don't spend effort on it. They just make it as quickly as they can and then release it, hoping that at least some people will purchase it and then for whatever reason fail to refund it within the specified timeframe. And do you have anything to say regarding the two websites that cover the game, "gamingonlinux" and "indieretronews"? DesertPipeline (talk) 20:43, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Developer's intentions aren't important. Only thing that matters is coverage from reliable sources, as I've reiterated. Indieretronews is an amateurish blog, not a news publisher or media website with team of editorial staff. Same goes for gamingonlinux. Neither has been vetted as a reliable source at WP:VG/RS. Furthermore, none of the dozens of reliable sources that we do list at WP:VG/RS cover this game, hence why I have nominated for deletion. Even if these two websites were considered reliable sources, the articles they have on the game are composed of two short paragraphs. That's not significant coverage or in depth at all for page on generalist encyclopedia. It's about as bare bones as you can get. --The1337gamer (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Your points are fair. I certainly do not like it, but I will accept deletion of my article. I have copied the contents from Source Editing to a text document so that I can recreate this article when it does have sources. However, what am I going to do about the game logo uploaded? It is specifically for use in this article, and it would be frustrating to have to reupload it again when the game is released. Is there anything that can be done about that? Regardless, I don't want this deletion discussion dragged on any further. You are correct, as is the commenter below regarding WP:TOOSOON. I would appreciate if the article were deleted immediately. Nothing will save the article right now, all I can do is wait for the game's release then recreate the article with independent sources. DesertPipeline (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like to move this page to my draft space for now. Is it possible to do that while the article is AfD'd? I agree with the deletion, I don't want this to drag out. I apologise for creating the article too soon. DesertPipeline (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've created a page at [] for the draft of the article. I have no objection with the actual article being deleted immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DesertPipeline (talk • contribs) 23:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I deleted it as per your WP:CSD tagging and moved the talk page to User talk:DesertPipeline/drafts/Voxel Tycoon. – Athaenara  ✉  12:38, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete for now. While this game could definitely get some coverage when it's release (Metacritic's already got a page for it), it's probably too soon to have an article for it. Alternatively, we could move it to draftspace for now. JOE BRO  64  20:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Metacritic page means nothing. They are automatically generated from databases like Steam's. Just check the PC games section on Metacritic. Has thousands of game pages with no reviews whatsoever. --The1337gamer (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete or draftify If nothing else, it's definitely WP:TOOSOON. I'd give DesertPipeline the draft because it could become notable on release, but it will not be automatically notable. SportingFlyer  talk  23:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Such refs as do exist do not meet WP:RS or WP:GNG. DaveApter (talk) 14:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.