Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voyager (metal band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Voyager (metal band)

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Non notable band. Does not satisfy WP:V, no sources besides social media pages (myspace and youtube). meshach (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC) I agree. This article about Voyager (metal band) should be deleted. It is being used as de-facto free advertising for the band. The posters on the page don't appear interested in the history of bands called "Voyager". Any mention of those other bands by that name are edited out by them. In other words, anyone looking for a full appraisal of how/why/where/when the name "Voyager" came to be used for a band is given a very restricted picture, pointing them exclusively to this band, and only this band. If this article is to remain, its title should be changed to reflect that it is ONLY about ONE specific band.Thereisnohope (talk) 08:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC) Moved from the talk page. meshach (talk) 00:12, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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 * They didn't remove the info about your band, I did and I have nothing to do with either band. This article is about ONE band called Voyager, not about others which share the same name. If your band is notable (see wp:band) then an article can be made about them, but not with the info you have been adding as that appears to be purely original research. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a review in dB Magazine, a small article in Central Coast Express ("VOYAGER - GET OUT" on 11 November 2009) on the band and an article in Guardian Express ("A law unto himself" on 24 November 2009) about Estrin and his band, Voyager. IMO getting close to the coverage needed. They got a WAM Heavy Rock Song of the Year from the WA Music Industry Association and "and I Am the Revolution has become Album of the Week in Romania on their biggest metal website", neither good enough for me. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed to reflect actual article content, I was half thinking of another unrelated article when I made the mistake. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notable band with not verifiable or reliable sources. Bidgee (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * What's not verifiable or reliable about the sources I provided. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all it fails WP:V, also I fail to see how it is classed as reliable. Bidgee (talk) 12:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * How do the sources I provided fail wp:v? We have a link for one and the papers names, articles title and publication dates for the others. It being which one? What about the other two? duffbeerforme (talk) 13:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * (reply to duffbeerforme above). You ask "How do the sources I provided fail wp:v?"  Those are self published sources.  YouTube and MySpace should not be linked from this page and they do not confer any notability to the article.  I have removed both links.  Please read the following page: WP:RS. meshach (talk) 18:46, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * What make you think dB Magazine, Central Coast Express and Guardian Express are self published? What does YouTube and MySpace have to do with those three publications? I have read WP:RS and see nothing to make me question the Verifiability of the three articles I introduced to this discussion. My question still remains. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Has NOT "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable". Fails WP:BAND. WWGB (talk) 13:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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