Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vril magic eye

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - should be merged - SimonP 13:30, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Vril magic eye
This doesn't sound very plausible. A Nazi technology that has the "ability to emerge and submerge dimensionally- appearing and disappearing at will". Kappa 05:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I now vote merge/redirect per JRM below Kappa 22:09, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

1) Kugelpanzer- lierally a round, ball tank shipped to Japan and used for light recon. Seems ridiculous, yet one was captured by the Russians and is on DISPLAY in the Kubinka Museum. Tale proved TRUE. 2) Mystery "N-Material" (aka modern Greek Fire) developed by the German Army and supposedly dropped only to be picked up by the SS for production. Again, seems like a pure fabrication. Material was discovered to be CIF3 and WAS produced at its own facility at Falkenhagen. So dangerous was the material that four water towers all connected to the central storage unit in case of ignition. CIF3 can literally repel water once ignited and only a huge amt. of water that is under pressure can ensure that CIF3 burns out underwater without spreading. The German facility had to submerge the storage area to the ceiling and had bleed shafts built into the structure for water overflow. Strange but TRUE. 3) Mystery V-4 missile. In most missiles books just a bluff to keep Sweden from turning to the Allies in 1945. But on Misdroy launch catapults pointing NORTH were found along with several Pabst ramjets and rocket launch cylinder units. The V-1 by comparison pointed WEST and used a chemical cylinder to produce steam for launch, not a rocket... and the V-1 used a crude Argus-Schmidt pulsejet, not a Pabst ramjet. Tale proved TRUE. 4) Mystery V-7 weapon. Considered a complete hoax. Only problem is the patent of it by Bruno Schwenteit as the Elektrische Luft turbine und Raumschiff, crediting Rudolf Schriever and Dr. Richard Miethe. Proved TRUE. These are just a few waffen used as examples. No one claimed that the Magic Eye worked or flew... only that a lab model was being tested by early 1945. Vril from the start concentrated on channeled flight using manipulation of gravity through intense rotating EM fields to produce strong frequency oscillations that intensified would open a small channel through spacetime. A black hole simply uses its intense gravity and imploding mass to punch a hole in spacetime. Vril tried a limited white hole effect. But no one has claimed that their JFM, Vril series of discs, or the huge cylindrical Andromeda machine actually accomplished this. Rather the opposite. The Vril 7 that tried from Arado-Brandenburg in late 1944 was completely wrecked in one experiment. Their claims are on the Vril page and no one is deleting that page. All I'm saying is that these people who come here don't know enough about the subject to credibly disprove the claims. Come back when you know more about German Secret Weapons technology, which at one time was 11,000 tons of military documents at Wright Field postwar.
 * Delete. looks like nonsense...  Bushytails 06:16, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. At best this is pseudoscience, more likely it's simply nonsense. - Andre Engels 09:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsense. jni 10:13, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Ack, this is hysterical!  Please, Delete - there's a room reservation for it at Hotel BJAODN. --Mothperson 15:27, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. What Mothperson said says it well. hydnjo talk 20:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Vril. Eliminate all the nonsense and summarize, of course. JRM · Talk 20:30, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
 *  Merge and redirect  to Vril. Note: as someone who KNOWS German Secret Weapons for over 25 years let me explain some things that you people don't know. Here's a list of OTHER German claimed weapons that seemed like fantasy that were later confirmed as real:
 * Merge to Vril. Megan1967 11:51, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Jeez, damn, well I didn't know that. We better tell Mothperson about this right away so that the reservation at Hotel BJAODN can be cancelled and perhaps get our deposit back. hydnjo talk 22:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsense. Jayjg (talk) 21:06, 12 May 2005 (UTC)


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