Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vysyaraju Kasi Viswanatham Raju


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The result was no consensus. Tending towards keep. Stifle (talk) 14:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Vysyaraju Kasi Viswanatham Raju

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My various searches found nothing to suggest improvement aside from several browser links none of which looked good. Although the position would sound notable, this is an orphan and there's no apparent target for moving elsewhere. I'm sure any sources may be non-English and offline but I'm not seeing anything to my abilities. SwisterTwister  talk  06:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep if sources can be found, since he passes WP:POLITICIAN if genuine. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Definite keep now sources have been found to show he did serve in a legislature as claimed. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:44, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Berhampur (Odisha Vidhan Sabha constituency) is a constituency in Legislative Assembly of Orissa, India. The name does not appear in this list.Sulabhvarshney (talk) 20:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete  Lack of sources. Sofiamar (talk) 23:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC) per WP:SOCKSTRIKE Kraxler (talk) 00:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * - You can't vote "Keep Delete" as that's just nonsensical - You should probably amend that . – Davey 2010 Talk 00:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * * Done Davey2010 :) Sofiamar (talk) 01:28, 29 July 2015 (UTC) per WP:SOCKSTRIKE Kraxler (talk) 00:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) – Davey 2010 Talk 01:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note Although it seems to have been for voting keep at AfDs, Sofiamar is no longer able to edit (see Sockpuppet investigations/Sofiamar/Archive). SwisterTwister   talk  06:03, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 07:19, 30 July 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Keep . Subject meets the notability criteria as per WP:POLITICIAN but since there are no evidences against the notability it is a hoax and nothing else. — CutestPenguinHangout 08:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  Talk   12:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:V. Without sources, there is nothing to suggest that this person was a politician - let alone notable as one. Looking up the early Legislative Assembly election results in Odisha, they are neither listed as MLA for Berhampur in 1951, 1957 or 1961 (page 9, #104, page 6, #13 and page 6, #17). Fuebaey (talk) 15:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Fuebaey. WP:POLITICIAN applies to real people, not intentional hoaxes or good-faith errors who never existed.  Nyttend (talk) 00:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NPOL, well, this is a real person: Read the article, it says that he "was the first member of the Legislative Assembly of Berhampur", and reading Odisha Legislative Assembly we learn that the first Assembly met in 1937. Yes, there was an Orissa Legislative Assembly diring colonial times, and the first sometimes really means the first. This source (Indian Annual Register, 1943) lists Vysyaraju Kasi Viswanadhan [note the different spelling d instead of t] Raju among the members of "The Orissa Legislative Assembly" (page 247); this source (The Indian Year Book, 1940) lists the name with the same spelling as a member of the "Orissa Legislative Assembly" from "Berhampur"; this source (The Journal of Orissan History, 1982) talks about a fact from 1939, mentioning Vysyaraju Kasi Viswanadam [note the different spelling with d but without h] Raju as a member of the opposition. Also this source (The "Yearly Digest" of Indian & Select English Cases, 1962) mentions Vysyaraju Kasiviswanadham Raju as a party to a court case. I suggest !voters be more diligent and careful before they pronounce a straightforward statement of fact as a hoax. Kraxler (talk) 18:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to access the references through the links above, but searching via GBooks for "Vysyaraju Kasi" does throw up snippet views of those sources. I came across the last reference on a different website in my original search, but being a party in a court case does not confer notability. Looking on the Orissa Legislative Assembly website, the first pre-independence assembly (sorted by constituency) lists Shri Vysyraju Kasi Viswanadham Raju as #43, which gives me enough to keep this for satisfying WP:NPOL. Fuebaey (talk) 03:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


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