Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Władysław Szulist


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:40, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Władysław Szulist

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Amateur historian. Most works self published or published by local museum / very low key journals/magazines/newspapers. Citation count on GScholar falls well below WP:PROF (through GScholar is not great at indexing non-English language works and their impact). Awards limited to medal of local historical association. Coverage in media limited to local sources (town portal and like). I appreciate historians, but not all of them are notable. I am afraid this one, while certainly commendable for his activities, is not yet encyclopedic. (PS. Red flag - no article on inclusionist pl wikipedia...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  06:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Teetering back and forth but probably coming down on the side of delete - Whilst Szulist clearly wrote a lot of books, and also presented a television program on Gunter Grass, the only real reliable source coverage I could find about him was this article in a regional newspaper. One more hit like that in a different reliable source (preferably a national one with less interview commentary) and I'd probably flip to keep per WP:BASIC, but as it is it doesn't get over the line. FOARP (talk) 08:25, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete we need sourcing about him, not bare proof that he published work. Also the whole rhetoric on Kashubian-Americans in the article boils down to fringe theories on what are and what are not ethnic groups.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:55, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This does not read to me like fiction, but as a person who has done a lot of research into an obscure subject, a small ethnic group in what is now part of Poland. I note that the Kashubian WP has an article on him, so that it presumably thinks him notable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Just noting that Kashubian wiki is one of those 'preserve language' projects written by <10 active editors and with real world readership of <100 or so. Nobody except language activists reads this, so it is not a useful metric. As I noted, the fact that he is absent from Polish Wikipedia is more relevant (since unlike Kashubian wiki it has some criteria for notability). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 12:00, 8 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Try one last re-list to see if we can get more engagement in the AfD

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 18:51, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete As the author of, apparently, 7 works, he could also be assessed against WP:NAUTHOR, if there are reviews of the books, etc. I don't find any trying to google the titles - but I don't have access to offline or paywalled journals where reviews might be found. As for articles, etc, about him - I also found this (the same article that FOARP found). If there was coverage of him in Poland pre-internet or pre-digitised news, I don't have access to it. Despite his extensive travels through the US and Canada, Newspapers.com shows only brief mentions of him in 1997 in a notice of an upcoming event, and a letter to the editor after the event. It looks like he doesn't meet any notability guidelines, though offline coverage of him or of his works may exist. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


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