Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W.J. Bryan Elementary School (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. RFerreira 18:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

W.J. Bryan Elementary School
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non notable elementary school. Elementary schools do not generally have inherent notability, and this one only has light assertions of notability (otherwise it would be speedied). &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Denny Crane.  01:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The school building is almost 80 years old, with very unusual architecture for a school (see the photo on the website http://wjbryan.dadeschools.net/ ). It's apparently not on the National Register of Historic Places, but it's definitely interesting architecturally and probably should be considered notable on that basis alone. I'd like to see a photo and more information about the architecture. I did a minimal Google search that did not turn up any architectural info, but I did find and add some information about the school's relationship with Johnson and Wales University, which I added to the article.--orlady 13:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Additional comment: It appears that this school building is one of a handful of structures that date from the early days of the community. See this Google book excerpt from a photo book of the area --orlady 13:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Is it a coincidence that it's almost time for school to start up again? Stop worrying, it'll be fun and you'll make new friends.  Mandsford 16:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - 80 years is really not that old for a building, and I fail to see notability for a school based on its architecture Corpx 04:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree orlady. Skillz187 05:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unusually large and unusually old for an elementary school, particularly old for a building in North Miami (one of a few there that is older, in fact, than the city itself). bd2412  T 19:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, I went to their website (linked by orlady above) and they have a link titled William Jennings Bryan. Guess where that link leads? bd2412  T 19:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions.   —TerriersFan 22:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - notably large elementary school (are there any that are larger?) with interesting architectural features. TerriersFan 22:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per bd2412, no convincing arguments have been presented for the deletion of this article. Burntsauce 18:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No assertion of notability. Most of the buildings in my street are +200 years old and that doesn't make them any notable.-- Hús  ö  nd  01:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently you don't live in Florida. When it comes to "historical landmarks", context is everything. In some parts of Florida, almost everything is very new. In that context a building need not be very old to be a unique reminder of a vanished past.--orlady 03:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What vanished past is there in an 80-year-old school? Wikipedia doesn't revolve around Florida, things don't become notable or encyclopedic just because they are unusual in that particular part of the globe.-- Hús  ö  nd  03:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As a European, you probably cannot understand how profoundly many parts of the United States landscape have been altered in the last 80 years. When this school was built, it was in a small farming village that had been recently carved out of forest and wetlands. Now that natural setting is destroyed, people and concrete are everywhere, and the school may be the only element in the landscape that is recognizable from 80 years ago. Europe has also experienced tremendous change, but there is more respect for heritage.--orlady 05:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See The Barnacle Historic State Park - the oldest standing house in the entire country was built in 1891. bd2412  T 18:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 80 years is really not that old for a school in the United States.  If they move buildings, but retain the name, would it still be notable? Corpx 05:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have any information suggesting that they have moved buildings? I drive by there every once in a while, and although they've added new buildings, the original structures are still there and clearly in use. bd2412  T 18:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per orlady and bd2412, notable eighty year old educational institution worthy of encyclopedic coverage. Silensor 17:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. --Myles Long 17:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per the fact its a historic landmark, that implies some validity to an elementary school article.  ALKIVAR &trade; &#x2622; 18:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * keep please this is a notable school it makes no sense to erase yuckfoo 16:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.