Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. C. Clark (settler)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 08:34, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

W. C. Clark (settler)

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No evidence of notability, an early inhabitant of a smallish village who is mentioned as such in some books, without further indications of any notability. A non notable rapper as a 5th generation descendant is not really a reason to keep this either. Fails WP:BIO Fram (talk) 10:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

"Notability is a property of a subject and not of a Wikipedia article. If the subject has not been covered outside of Wikipedia, no amount of improvements to the Wikipedia content will suddenly make the subject notable. Conversely, if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Wikipedia article will not decrease the subject's notability.".

The thing about the rapper may not be notable but the article itself would be considered notable due to its coverage outside of Wikipedia. Pokemon879 (talk) 3:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Pokemon879 - Notability has nothing to do with the article itself. It has to do with the article subject, or what you're writing the article about. The statement you cited here means that (if applied correctly), there are no edits that anyone can make to an article on Wikipedia that will make that person notable. It has nothing to do with how well-written or how "good" the article is. Notability is established by the availability of independent reliable sources that cover the subject in-depth - sites that are outside Wikipedia determine this. I just wanted to add a comment to help clear any confusion here before you continue down this path and with the wrong interpretation of this process and these guidelines in-mind; AFD and notability is a process and guideline that new users typically don't understand until they gain some experience and tenure on Wikipedia. You're welcome to message me if you have any questions or need any help - I'll be happy to do so.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. I found little about this settler on Google. Article cites Instagram as it source and has no concrete notability established, thus failing WP:Verifiability and WP:BIO. EROS message 11:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 13:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 13:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

It also cites 2 books (obviously you didn't read the references). If you google something as simple as "W.C Clark Puxico" several things will come up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokemon879 (talk • contribs) 00:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete There are primary sources such as death certificates which might be interesting to descendants, but are not the reliable secondary sources with significant coverage needed to satisfy WP:BIO. Then there is a directory listing that says he bred swine, and passing references as one of several early residents of a place. These, too, are not the significant coverage needed to satisfy WP:BIO and serve as the bases of an article. Being someone's ancestor is inadequate per WP:NOT.Instagram and the like are not reliable sources. Descendants might wish to create an entry at Ancestry.com. Edison (talk) 03:54, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


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