Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. J. Ross


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

W. J. Ross

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTSCRIT #5, and suitable coverage is unlikely to be available as we don't know basic biographical details about him, such as his first name or date of birth, that would allow us to find such coverage.

Renominating after a procedural keep. Redirect is not suitable per WP:R #1; it would make it unreasonably difficult for readers to find other people who are mentioned or are notable with the same initials. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2022 June 15.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 05:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 06:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * This guy won an Olympic medal, so Redirect to Lacrosse at the 1904 Summer Olympics. A redirect is suitable per WP:R #1, WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The above claim is misleading at best. There were 3 teams that competed in the Lacrosse competition in the 1904 "Olympics" so they all won medals. It was the team (which we lack an article on interestingly enough) not the individuals who won medals. The teams pre-1912 were not national teams, and in 1904 there were multiple teams just from St. Louis from multiple athletic groups in St. Louis (some other US cities sponsored multiple teams as well). About 75% or so of the competitors were Americans, a large part beyond that Canadians, the rest of the world virtually not present at all. The Olympics were moved at the last minute from Chicago to St. Louis to be connected with the St. Louis World's fair. Nothing about this leads to any indication someone we do not even know the full name of who was a competitor was at all notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't know his name. This just isn't enough to go on to have an article.Jacona (talk) 11:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, oppose redirect; fails GNG and winning a medal as part of a team in an event with only three entrants is no reason to suspect any coverage exists. Redirection would not be a valid result here, since it is far more likely that readers would be looking for one of a number of other equally or more notable people or companies of that name, including William J Ross (attorney), Willie Ross (American football), William Ross (Star Trek), William J Ross (production manager) etc. We should not be surprising readers by sending them to a random sporting event article. wjematherplease leave a message... 13:52, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per wjemather, no evidence of notability. Avilich (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)


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