Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. P. Bailey


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The result was redirect to List of Hampshire County Cricket Club first-class players. The consensus appears to have become clearer after the relisting. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:30, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

W. P. Bailey

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full name and dates of birth and death unknown, fails WP:GNG. Störm  (talk)  06:04, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Giving time for finding possibly existing sources.
 * Keep Yes has only played 1 FC match (still passes WP:NCRIC in its current form), but it was for Hampshire in the County Championship. He played in the second match in their history. While there's an internet source doesn't reveal much, there is likely offline coverage, given it was the first season in Hampshire's history, and Hampshire being a historic county for the foundation of cricket due to the Hambledon club. Hampshire's club historian has covered this period quite a fair bit, so it's highly likely something exists. List of Hampshire County Cricket Club first-class players exists if needed for WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 11:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rugbyfan22.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hampshire's cricket historian didn't have much luck finding out who he was judging by this. StickyWicket (talk) 09:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to List of Hampshire County Cricket Club first-class players. Fails WP:GNG; there is also entirely insufficient information to merit a standalone article, and almost no hope of finding any, irrespective of the trivial pass of NCRIC. wjematherplease leave a message... 10:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the Hampshire page seems prudent here, if not outright deletion. There's not enough here GNG-wise for a stand-alone article, and he only marginally passes an extremely inclusive SNG. Definitely do not keep as a stand-alone, he clearly fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Based on analysis of Rugbyfan22. 2603:7000:2143:8500:BC29:39D3:B962:8854 (talk) 06:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 09:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG for which NCRIC is simply meant to be guide, in this case a guide that fails due to the evident lack of significant coverage. WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:WHYN are clear that we can't base biographies on mere statistics. I have seen no evidence that newspapers in the 1860s provided in-depth biographies of occasional cricketers, and given that the team's own historian hasn't found in-depth coverage it's a safe bet it doesn't exist.Pontificalibus 12:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. County Championship cricketer, sure newspaper coverage exists too. Will have a look for it. StickyWicket (talk) 22:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I checked newspapers.com and britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk and didn't find anything. I find it hard to see how he could have garnered significant coverage in newspapers not archived on those sites, yet nothing in those that are.Pontificalibus 09:11, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect per SF and Pontificalibus. NCRIC is completely irrelevant when GNG is demonstrably failed -- where could SIGCOV of this marginal cricketer possibly exist if the Hampshire historian can't even find anything??? JoelleJay (talk) 05:29, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Hampshire County Cricket Club first-class players. Given the amount written about Hampshire players, if we can't find anything out about the chap I really don't think we can have a standalone page on him at this stage. If information turns up, we can roll back the redirection. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:44, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


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