Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. Walter Menninger


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The result was Keep.  (non-admin closure).Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


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Has been tagged for notability for over six years and several editors have raised concerns about its notability (see page's history). Merge proposal was put in for this to be merged to his notable foundation - only one response to the proposal, which was to oppose it. Boleyn (talk) 17:16, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Then we have no other remedy but to delete it; individual notability is not established by multiple independent reliable sources. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 17:26, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep- 24,000 hits on google for him and 2,300 in books google. This includes both his work with the Boy Scouts of America Health and Safety Committee and the large number of his book published, as well as being part of the Menninger Foundation.  The Bio from his papers at the Kansas Historical Society is at http://www.kshs.org/dart/units/view/223421, I'm not quite sure what need to be added for notability, Being thanked in the Credits for the Great Gadsby for the screenplay (http://cjonline.com/news/2013-05-10/walt-menninger-credited-great-gatsby) should probably be in the article, but not enough on its own for notability.Naraht (talk) 17:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Added information from his bio in Scouting Magazine in 1986.Naraht (talk) 17:56, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete in the absence of independent and reliable sources that would allow him to pass WP:GNG. We have none now: the Scouting Magazine piece is by him, not about him, and the Menninger Clinic links are not independent. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Would using the Kansas State Historical Society Bio count? ( http://www.kshs.org/dart/units/view/223421) I'm curious as to whether that counts as primary or secondary. He didn't write the bio, but it does appear to be built from his papers. Also, if the information in the Scouting Magazine were confirmed by other sources, would that be acceptable to you?Naraht (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. Thanks, EricEnfermero, for properly sourcing this and demonstrating that it passes WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:03, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - I think I've added enough independent sources to meet WP:GNG. Menninger served as editor for two psychiatric journals (albeit one published out of the Menninger Clinic) and received a Distinguished Service Award from the American Psychiatric Association. He was covered pretty widely as he led the Menninger Clinic through a period in which they decided to move the whole operation to another state. His research led to the Menninger morale curve, which is a method of framing the study of morale among members of groups. EricEnfermero  HOWDY! 13:24, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely WP:GNG especially after EricEnfermero additions. Quite famous in the field of psychiatry. I am One of Many (talk) 17:55, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
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