Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W34CR


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The result was   delete. Clearly no sourcing for these. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

W34CR

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Contested PROD; for some reason after a first contesting it was re-nominated, which cannot be done. There are no sources outside of the FCC for this silent low-power station; it does claim a former Annenberg Channel affiliation, but is a very small satellite repeater of such networks really that notable?

I am also nominating the following related article:

It's the same reasoning as with W34CR; outside of the differing technical and call sign information, the two articles are identical.  WC  Quidditch  &#9742;   &#9998;  16:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Delete both -- Non-notable, low-powered stations, with no sources (other than FCC records), and no evidence of them ever being on. -- azumanga (talk) 16:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Keep both -- The stations are licensed by the FCC. Many small low power silent stations have articles on Wikipedia, so these two should remain -- someguy23475 —Preceding undated comment added 00:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC).
 * Comment: Even if they were licensed by the FCC, creating an article only on that fact is not good enough for Wikipedia atandards -- its notability, the programming it offers, sources of the station's existence beyond FCC records and even whether or not it went on the air at all must be taken into consideration. -- azumanga (talk) 04:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The station had been on the air before, this is from personal conversations between myself and the late owner's daughter, and a member of the school district where the tower currently stands. Using your criteria, WXON-LP in Flint should be deleted as well, since that runs at very low power and hasn't been confirmed on the air. Someguy23475 —Preceding undated comment added 22:09, 11 October 2011 (UTC).
 * Comment: Nevertheless, more tangible information, other than conversations, is necessary. Unless it is documented and accessible, we simply can't take your word for it.-- azumanga (talk) 23:48, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Then what exactly is the harm of leaving it alone? There are certainly more articles that are deemed less important and less relevant than this one. Someguy23475 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.123.9 (talk) 01:33, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: For the main fact that there are absolutely no sources available, other than what the FCC says. In the case of WXON, there are some sources (such as michiguide.com) that gives more detail on its broadcasting history, but for those two articles in question, there is almost absolutely nothing. -- azumanga (talk) 15:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Michiguide lists and has pages on both W34CR and W41CK. (Someguy23475) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.123.9 (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG, which requires multiple reliable sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The FCC's website is one source. Michiguide.com also has a page on these stations. Hence, multiple sources. (User:Someguy23475) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.24.245 (talk) 04:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: But Michigiude does not say much other than what the FCC site says. You can Google W34CR and get plenty of hits from many sites, but all of them draw the same info from the FCC. There is nothing out there that gives the same info beyond what's already available from the FCC. -- azumanga (talk) 23:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge - Merge a group of the low power stations. Otherwise they fail WP:GNG. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 23:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge both/create and redirect to List of low-power television stations or List of defunct low-power television stations. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Both suggested articles do not currently exist on Wikipedia, as they show up as red links. -- azumanga (talk) 01:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
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