Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WCNU


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep (non-admin closure), snowball closure, government licensed stations are considered notable by consensus, notability is not temporary. Rtphokie (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

WCNU

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doesn't pass WP:N, defunct station with nothing particularly special or notable about it KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  01:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I was under the impression that all FCC-licensed stations are notable even if defunct. Although I'm finding no reliable sources for this one, I might be tempted to go for a weak keep given that it went defunct before there really was much to the Internet. Some Florida native with access to news archives might be useful. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 10:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 10:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and fix. Licensed radio stations are presumed notable for their geographic impact and history. This station was on the air for 40 years 60 years+. Google searches show that the station's tower is still a local landmark and the station's operations are at least partially WP:verifiable through Google Books. Note: This article was taken to AfD two minutes after creation? If notability is in doubt, there are other measures to try first. • Gene93k (talk) 10:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * corrections on better review of sources: Google Book hits on this station go back to the 1920s and 30s. At least some of the station's history is readily verifiable. • Gene93k (talk) 12:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep All stations are notable, even if they were licensed for one day and are not defunct. Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 14:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - notability does not expire --T-rex 15:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep as notability is not temporary and this former licensed broadcaster had a 40+ year history of service, firmly establishing notability. Defunct to a radio station is like being dead to a notable person--tragic for them but just a few lines in their article for Wikipedia. - Dravecky (talk) 17:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: 10,000 watts is miniscule. Your college radio station will be 40,000 watts.  The durability is good, and it establishes that there was a long time niche served, but, at that power rating in its last days, it would have been an extremely small market, even in the clear air days.  Utgard Loki (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In what part of the U.S. is that small? Certainly not the East Coast where major commercial stations weigh in at about 50,000 watts. Even a 100 watt signal covers a significant area. Since, WCNU was a HF station, it was subject to nighttime restrictions from the 1930s onward to keep the signal from bouncing to other parts of the country. • Gene93k (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You must be kidding, or off by three decimal places. Maybe 10 KW is miniscule for a TV station.  But definitely powerful for a radio station.  I don't think I've ever heard of an AM station with more than 50,000 watts.  At that level they can cover half the continental United States at night.  Ten watts is more typical of the college station we'd be debating notability of. Squidfryerchef (talk) 17:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The Google Books hits indicate that this station is indeed verifiable, and notability doesn't expire. The station was once licensed by the FCC, and as I stated above, FCC-licenesed stations tend to be inherently notable. I see no reason to leave this one out, even if it has been off the air for 20 years. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I just noticed in the article history that this was nominated a full two minutes after the article was created as an "initial draft." I'm all for keeping the project clean but that seems a little fast on the trigger to me. - Dravecky (talk) 18:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Per TenPoundHammer.Nrswanson (talk) 23:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep article now has multiple sources, and have been worked into the history of the station. Is a full-power station with a nearly 60-year history, and this is the sort of thing we presume notability on. Squidfryerchef (talk) 17:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


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