Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WIDB


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. no prejudice to a redirect  MBisanz  talk 06:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

WIDB

 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Unreferenced article on an unlicensed college radio station with over the air coverage limited to a college campus. No indication of why this station is notable. Rtphokie (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete student-run campus radio station. Most colleges and even some high schools have these, and they're never notable. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  13:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Per Notability (media), campus radio stations are judged for notability or non-notability by the same standards as commercial radio outlets; they're not non-notable just because they're run by students. That said, unlicensed carrier current stations do fall below the waterline, but the operative word here is unlicensed, not "campus". However, the station can perfectly legitimately be mentioned in our article on Southern Illinois University Carbondale. Merge and redirect. Bearcat (talk) 14:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Per Notability (media), campus radio stations are judged for notability or non-notability by the same standards as commercial radio outlets; they're not non-notable just because they're run by students. That said, unlicensed carrier current stations do fall below the waterline, but the operative word here is unlicensed, not "campus". However, the station can perfectly legitimately be mentioned in our article on Southern Illinois University Carbondale. Merge and redirect. Bearcat (talk) 14:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep to me it is similar to KVCO. I don't like the content, I think it's poorly written and overly-detailed for the subject matter--but that's a content issue, not a deletion issue.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Except that KVCO holds an FCC license and transmits over the air like a conventional radio station. The one in question has never held an FCC license and I'm not sure it's sanctioned by the University . SIU's equivalent of KVCO is WSIU. --Dual Freq (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Struck part of above comment, apparently sanctioned by SIUC and part of the broadcasting program. --Dual Freq (talk) 02:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep It has a 40 year history of broadcasting locally originated programming to residence halls housing many thousands of students, exceeding the listening areas of many low power licensed stations which have been kept in AFDs. If it had an FCC license, I would call it a clear "keep." A Google News search turned up substantial coverage in the campus newspaper and other campus media,,  ,   ,  , which some at AFD deprecate as a reliable and independent source for showing the notability of campus organizations, but which are at least not directly sourced to the station. In off-campus media, a Google News search showed fairly incidental mentions of WIDB, such as members being involved in crimes not related to the station, or the station sponsoring a cardboard boat in a campus event. The occasionally promotion tone of the article can be corrected by the normal editing process. The case for notability would be vastly improved by off-campus books, magazines, or newspapers having substantial coverage beyond the aforementioned brief mentions. Edison (talk) 17:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - This article is poorly written, has no sourcing, and could stand to be broken up in sections for easier reading. That said, it seems to have a notable history to a signifigant university and once proper editing to the article is complete, it should be a certain keep. I for one enjoyed reading through the information there and am willing to begin working on it's structure over the next few days, however, sourcing may take longer. In the mean time, the station is notable enough, IMO, and for the purposes of this AfD should be a keep. Coastalsteve984 (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Being non-notable for a long time does not mean it gets some kind of age-related notability liscence. Which along with this radio station's lack of other licences makes it non-notable. Even keep !voters say it fails verifiability. Without sourcing there is no way to prove any of it is even true, and certainly not that iti is notable.Yobmod (talk) 07:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Starblind. Stifle (talk) 23:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.