Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WZCA


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of radio stations in U.S. Territories. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃  (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 10:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

WZCA

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Unsourced article. UPE target.  scope_creep Talk  17:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Puerto Rico. Shellwood (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:BCASTOUTCOMES, FCC-licensed. It no longer repeats WLUZ so the redirect is effectively incorrect.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The article is unsourced . It currently fails WP:SIGCOV.   scope_creep Talk  20:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: A redirect is proposed but no propsed target is suggested. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:38, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment According to the village pump-policy,  BCASTOUTCOMES actually calls for deletion when there is no significant coverage. The license information is out of date which means its not applicable as source. It currently fails WP:SIGCOV as there is no coverage on the article.    scope_creep Talk  05:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I would suggest a redirect.   scope_creep Talk  10:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The Articles for deletion/WLUZ has more information on these radio station with no information. I asked a question at the village pump-policy. WP:BCASTOUTCOMES was rewritten by outcome at RFC. There must now be evidence of coverage. It now a redirect target.    scope_creep Talk  05:49, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:BCASTOUTCOMES per Nate's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 09:08, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. WP:BCASTOUTCOMES has been redone and updated per a recent RFC. There is currently a discussion at village pump-policy if you need to read about it.    scope_creep Talk  15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course it does. You can never change my mind. SBKSPP (talk) 23:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * If I read the RfC closure that led to it correctly, "WP:BCASTOUTCOMES" is a clarification that exactly arguments like "Keep per (insert anything else than WP:GNG here)" are invalid. It thus looks absurd to me when it is cited as an allegedly-valid keep reason against GNG-based arguments. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to List of radio stations in U.S. Territories — at this article, if any argument is to be per WP:BCASTOUTCOMES, it's that. Long story short: no sources, no notability, no article. (Really, this is actually how all of Wikipedia is supposed to work, but for far too long this was one of many policies and guidelines that radio articles tended to be at odds with — but unlike many of the others, sourcing and notability gets you more-or-less into five-pillars territory.) Given the history of IP editing on this article — which is basically the article's entire non-redirect history, actually — any retention of a redirect here should be accompanied by some sort of protection to prevent the return of any of this unsourced article content (which is why I'm calling for a "delete and redirect", to further discourage that); I wouldn't exactly be opposed to outright salting this either. -- WC  Quidditch  ☎   ✎  23:27, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of radio stations in U.S. Territories. In the absence of evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources, this appears to fail WP:GNG as a WP:MILL radio station. I agree with scope_creep, ToBeFree, and Wcquidditch above that "per WP:BCASTOUTCOMES" is a rather weak argument against deletion. The actual text of WP:BCASTOUTCOMES states: Licensed broadcast radio and TV stations are generally deleted if they lack significant coverage in reliable sources. We still require real sources to be provided as evidence of notability, and the proponents of keeping the article have not provided any above. I'm not 100% sold on the "delete and redirect"—in my mind, we should only do that if there is something extremely problematic with the article text, e.g. if it has copyright violations or WP:BLP violations. If someone tries to restore the article, we can always revert that by pointing to this AfD, and if it becomes persistent, we can semi-protect the redirect at that point. Mz7 (talk) 01:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of radio stations in U.S. Territories per WP:ATD. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. The arguments for keep using BCASTOUTCOMES are no longer valid, as the language of that guide was altered after this 2021 RfC ruling. Clearly the editors citing it above have not read the updated text of that guideline.4meter4 (talk) 02:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of radio stations in U.S. Territories, per above: there is not much content to speak of, and other concerns militate against a standalone article (like the lack of reliable information for writing a full article). jp×g 05:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note that, although I agree with the nominator in this AfD, I should probably say for the record that the nomination statement says almost nothing and doesn't really advance any argument in favor of deletion. jp×g 05:26, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.