Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waar Media


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Kurdish-language television channels. The arguments to keep are very weak: I don't like redirecting this, and I believe everyone involved recognizes the challenges of getting sources from this region, but not a single source provided here has stood up to scrutiny in terms of meeting WP:SIGCOV. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Waar Media

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I sent a page on this topic to AfD a year ago and it was soft deleted (Articles for deletion/WAAR TV). There is still no indication of its notability; most of the references are directory entries, and most of the content is puffery. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: The "keep" !votes are very weak, but so are the "delete" ones... More (and better argued) input needed. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Radio, Television,  and Iraq.  Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 17:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello dear,
 * Very good so that you do not hesitate what I can find for you that this channel has this quality.
 * See also
 * alalam News
 * Kurdsitan24
 * Waar TV
 * nawroz.edu
 * uod.ac
 * wikipedia waar sport
 * Youtube Waar Media
 * Sammi Brie
 * Aryan.duhoki (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Orientls (talk) 07:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep (with some comments): This broadcaster appears to at least exist per WRTH, and if the photo of its headquarters building in the article is actually its headquarters, then presumably it is relatively significant within its market. The article is not well written and poorly sourced but just because the TV/radio channels are in Kurdistan rather than a Western country, does not mean the article should go. Someone with greater knowledge of the Kurdish language and the Kurdish media market (but who is unconnected to this broadcaster) should take a look at this article with a view to improvements. Flip Format (talk) 11:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Hello Dear,
 * Wikipedia Kurdish waar tv
 * Livestream Channel for web Karwan tv
 * - Lyng Sat
 * - Fekera
 * - Eutelsat
 * - infosat
 * Dorar aliraq
 * Nawroz University with Waar TV
 * Program on WAAR TV
 * WAAR TV Turksat Frequency Information
 * We condemn the silencing Waar TV
 * App waar media
 * See @Randykitty @Orientls @Flip Format Nozhdar shahab ahmed (talk) 04:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Not exactly a lot out there on Kurdish television. Seems relevant and is sourced, which I'm shocked by considering the situation. Keep it.KatoKungLee (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * WAAR Media is known Waar TV is a Channel supported by Palo Broadcasting Company and owned by Kurdistan Regional Government President Nechirvan Barzani. See Mawazin News Arabic or Frequency Waar TV
 * @KatoKungLee 212.237.125.1 (talk) 08:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I want to keep this, all I need to see is Two clearly independent sources with something that can plausibly be considered SIGCOV (not promotional)  // Timothy :: talk  14:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, he must stay on Wikipedia now
 * @Timothy Aryan.duhoki (talk) 14:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Not unless you can find two sources that meet Wikipedia requirements.  // Timothy :: talk  23:43, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Kurdish-language television channels: The sourcing is very weak, nothing that is not promotional. The article doesn't appear promotional, just basic information. There is enough sourcing to show the basic factual information in the article is correct, but this doesn't demonstrate notability. Two clearly independent sources with something that can plausibly be considered SIGCOV without a pants-on-fire rebuff would shift me to keep; I want an excuse to keep this article and agree with Flip Format comments.  // Timothy :: talk  13:54, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Hello Dear,
 * CPJ ORG
 * Rwanga ORG
 * al-ain
 * Kurdistan Boards
 * Metroo org
 * Speemedia
 * sibehi
 * wikidata
 * Behance Design
 * Salahaddin University
 * Findi
 * anfkurdi
 * @Sandstein @ Aryan.duhoki (talk) 13:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Aryan.duhoki, see WP:THREE.  Sandstein   18:12, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All right, I got it. see
 * Wikipedia Kurdish waar tv
 * CPJ ORG
 * Dorar aliraq
 * @Sandstein Aryan.duhoki (talk) 14:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A Wikipedia page, a link that says nothing about the subject, and a forum post? Seriously you need to read WP:RS, WP:V, WP:IS, WP:GNG, and WP:SNG.  // Timothy :: talk  23:52, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The second link is a forum, which is not a permissible source (WP:UGC). Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:30, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Mawazin
 * Alalam
 * Eutelsat
 * Al ain
 * @Sammi Brie @Sandstein 185.136.148.107 (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Rudaw
 * Kurdistan24
 * Bianet
 * @Sammi Brie @Sandstein @TimothyBlue See your article Aryan.duhoki (talk) 11:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * , you need to read WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:GNG with special attention to WP:SIGCOV and WP:V; spaming links that do not meet these guidelines will not show notability.  // Timothy :: talk  12:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Kurdish-language television channels as ATD. Not enough in-depth coverage to show it meets WP:GNG. Onel 5969  TT me 20:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.