Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wahre und Falsche "Fauen-Emanzipation"


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The result was speedy keep. I am withdrawing this nomination, because given the below and, it seems much better to deal with the issues in this article through ordinary editing than deletion. (non-admin closure) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:59, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Wahre und Falsche "Fauen-Emanzipation"

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Apparently quite obscure treatise on women's rights and Catholicism that fails WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG. The author has a short article in dewiki, but the only hits for the book I can find are in bibliographical entries. Rösler's entry in Deutsche Biographie only mentions the book in passing. I would happily be proven wrong about this, but I don't think there's coverage to support an article. Rösler's most famous work, incidentally, is Die Frauenfrage vom Standpunkte der Natur, which does look notable. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:27, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note Appears to have been created as part of a student course: see Benelux Education Program/Maastricht University/FPN Historical Book Review Spring 2018. Pam  D  11:01, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * and have left a note on their nl.wiki talk page. Pam  D  11:05, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * It does seem a bit obscure. WP:OLDBOOK makes some allowances for older books, but even under the correct title "Frauen-Emanzipation" I haven't been able to find much discussion of the book. (If this is kept, it needs to be moved.) —Kusma (t·c) 09:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If we now have a merge target, move to non-misspelled title, then redirect that (with a slight merge) to Augustin Rösler. Thank you for providing this possibility of an ATD. —Kusma (t·c) 15:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. A now-possible ATD is a (delete or merge) and redirect to Augustin Rösler, which I just created. Wahre und Falsche "Fauen-Emanzipation" seems to have a fair number of WP:NOTESSAY/WP:OR issues at the moment, but perhaps we could find some content to merge. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Merging to the author page is a great solution. This article is obscure but the best part of Wikipedia is finding fascinating bits of nerdy and obscure information, especially history. The only thing I would add is that since the sources are so specialized, maybe there is an Admin or Bureaucrat with subject matter expertise that could take a look at it for accuracy/perspective? SJTatsu (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's well over 40 years since I took German at school, but I remember enough to think that the title should have an extra "r" in it. If so, doesn't that invalidate all the opinions above which seem to be based on the title as given? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I did my searches with the "R" included and I believe did as well. Sadly, we really couldn't find much … AleatoryPonderings (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reaching out! The article about the book was written as part of the Wikipedia Education Program by a student from Maastricht University in the Netherlands. In the past the university was able to acquire a very old and special collection of old rare books, called the Jesuit Collection. This collection contains rare books that are considered to be important for the involved subject(s), and have played a significant role in how the subject developed over time. The students have received an introduction to Wikipedia, including about encyclopedic relevance, and the university provided them access to the special collection in what the students could choose for themselves which book they would like to write about. If I remember well, this particular book was chosen because the student considered it to be important in line with the Me Too developments, showing how the wish for equality and respect for women has a long history. As the writing takes place during a university course, students only have limited time to find sources. The sources need for a subject like this is because of the age often limited to physical sources, which are spread over many locations and hard to retrieve in the time given by the course. During the writing the student has received feedback on how to improve the article further, by both me (looking from the Wikipedia perspective) as well as by other students and the teacher (looking at it content/academic wise). As I am not so much into the subject, I will ask an expert in the field for his thoughts on the book, hopefully he can explain more what the notability is of the book. Romaine (talk) 15:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


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